Secondary Comprehensive Schools

[LesleyA]

HI please advise...is it almost a given that most kids that go to comprehensive secondary schools will finish at 16 and then go onto vocational studies rather than getting their GCSE's. In other words the majority wont qualify to go to university?

what are you on about?
my local comps all do GCSEs
almost all do A levels
almost all go on to uni.

where did you get that idea from?!

Didn't you ask about this a few weeks ago, Lesley, or was that someone else?

The answer is still that comprehensive schools educate the vast majority of the country's teenagers to GCSE level, many of those will continue to A-level, and many of those who do A-levels will go on to university.

It does vary a bit by how good the individual school is. Try page 6 of the Sutton Trust report for some details on proportions who are accepted at university. Even the results for the lowest fifth of schools say nearly 60% (of sixth-formers) go to university.

Unless I don't understand your question, you are completely wrong.

Our local comprehensive has 89% of children who stay in education...

I think OP is trying to justify forking out a second mortgage to send her DCs to a private school...

It actually makes sense if, as a PP pointed out, the OP has seen some outdated information about the grammar school/secondary modern split. What she's describing is a secondary modern from the mid-20th century.

Apologies if I am mistaken but OP I think you have asked this recently on a previous thread and already have you answer.
Is there something specific you are worried about?

You need to look at the specific school. My kids go to a comp and they have people who get all A at A-level. There is always at least one person who goes to Oxbridge and many go to Russell Group universities.

Every year a proportion of the children who attend the private school Ds used to go to opt to leave aged 16 & go to a local college to do a vocational course because it’s what they want to do.

Most state comps round here only offer A levels, you have to go to college to do a Btec. But A levels are the most popular type of course for the academically able.

Sorry OP but that's a very strange question you are asking. Sounds like you do not have familiarity of state school education system or know anything about the pupil demographics in the UK.

@LesleyA
Here are the exam results and outcomes from a couple of colleges whose intake is around 95% comprehensive school kids ...
www.barton-peveril.ac.uk/courses/files/2016/10/BP-OE-OCT2016-RESULTS.pdf
www.barton-peveril.ac.uk/blog/barton-peverils-oxbridge-success/

www.psc.ac.uk/achievements/destinations.php
www.psc.ac.uk/results/

Comprehensive schools have ALL abilities in them

Hi! I think this may be a windup . . . . Either that or . . . I don't know, there are countries where state education is virtually non-existent, or absolutely not worth bothering with . . . You educate your kids privately or not at all. People from there sometimes get together in this country with natives who think the same for, erm, unreconstructed historical/family reasons. And together invent reasons to justify their choices . . ???

All state schools in Scotland are comprehensive and have been for 40 years. Presumably that means that no one sits exams after 16 in Scotland and that there are no state educated Scots at Uni

......oh wait

In fairness to op there are systems overseas where the school you enter at 11/12 dictates what level of education and career you may aspire to.

My kids are at a comprehensive. All three will probably go to uni, as will most of the kids who stay on at the Sixth Form there.

Not all comprehensives have sixth forms but still will have kids go to university after another school sixth form or sixth form college. Also, other routes to university if desired...
[University always best route to go....]

Aghh university NOT always best way to go!!!!!!

Well my privately educated chum with a RG university degree in MFL is now a cleaner, but at least she has a cut glass accent which her clients understand!

Over half of all current MPs were educated in com0rehensive schools (like the majority of the nation & university population).

GF

The majority of kids at university went to comprehensives. Hope that reassures.

sticker
MPs are not an advert for social mobility and comps
www.suttontrust.com/research-paper/parliamentary-privilege-the-mps-2017-education-background/
29% went to private school
3% went to Eton
24% went to Oxbridge

So 71% of MPs were state educated - better than I thought! And much better than it was...

What a silly assumption!
My eldest two got comparable academic qualifications to the younger four who went privately.
Just thinking about the eldest one and her peers....
She obtained the equivalent of 6As at A level including an A level at grade A in year 11. She completed a degree in medicine and qualified as the youngest doctor in her academic year. She is now a GP trainee.
Her best friend is a 26 year old head of maths in a large secondary school having got a first in maths. She finished school with 5As at A level.
Her first boyfriend also got four As at A level. He went to Durham to do PPE. His best friend went to Oxford to do PPE. Six did medicine from her year, three went to Vet college. The overwhelming majority went to university to do subjects as diverse as Japanese, engineering, ancient history, economics, law etc.
There are some exceptionally good comprehensive schools out there. The best compare results favourably with grammars and private sector despite not selecting on academic ability.

No, we have a oversubscribed sixth form and 5 students have secured a place at Oxbridge.