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3 hours per week-night and 5 hours per day at the weekend?

40 replies

WellAyeNever · 31/01/2018 21:59

A local (state) secondary school has let it be known via social media that this is the amount of study time it expects its year 10 & 11 students to be averaging.

Is this usual? Surely none but a small handful of their students can be doing that much in anything other than the few weeks running up to their exams? I can only assume they are trying to deter any but the most academically-minded families from applying.

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cantkeepawayforever · 03/02/2018 12:35

DD (Y10) is very conscientious, and doing 2 coursework-heavy practical subjects.

She often does that amount at weekends, mostly on Art.

She can't during the week, as she also dances 12 hours a week. She probably does 1.5 - 2 hours every week night, less if she also has school hockey / netball matches, as she is in her year group team for both.

I think she'll be OK. I would suggest that a school that sets a homework timetable that does not allow pupils ANY hours for extracurricular activity - music, sport, swimming, etc etc etc is not setting them up for their future life appropriately.

LoniceraJaponica · 03/02/2018 14:40

That seem like an awful lot, and not sustainable.
DD was doing that amount of homework in year 12, not years10/11. Now that she has dropped down to 3 A level subjects she is doing less than that at home, but as she has more frees, she is doing more at school. She achieved 3 As in her mocks so she is clearly doing enough work. (I hope she hasn't peaked too early though)

NotTreacs · 03/02/2018 15:27

This was the amount of work my DS was doing in the run-up to GCSE's, (not quite this level in Y10 though) it is exhausting, but it paid off in his results and also good preparation for A levels, where it all gets so much harder!

bambambini · 04/02/2018 01:11

When mone wentvto high school they were handed a plan advising on homework through the week. I thought it was quite full on for yr 7. Load of rubbish - they never got anything like the amount of homework required anyway to put the planner in action. I think the school just thought it sounded good. I’d take it all with a pinch if salt tbh.

MaisyPops · 04/02/2018 08:45

bambambini
I agree.
We have a sizable minority of parents at our school who think frequency of homework = sign of how academic the school is.
We have a homework calendar which we generally follow (but of most us takr the common sense technique of not setting something pointless if it doesn't fit or if half the class are at a sporting event at the weekend we give a week iff).
Some parents complain they don't get enough homework.

It always baffles me. If you want more work, you could do the study packs we put online or could do educational things as a family.

I do wonder if some schools use homework timetables as part of marketing 'look how academic we are because we set lots of homework'. It's all a bit superfiical to me.

bambambini · 04/02/2018 15:48

Yip- agreed Maisie.

PerspicaciaTick · 04/02/2018 16:06

I'm assuming that it is also a school that doesn't have sports teams, music groups or drama activities. That discourages pupils from having jobs, joining outside groups or teams, frowns on cadet groups DofE and music lessons. It sounds like a very lopsided attitude to education, one which does pupils a disservice. Twenty five hours of additional study presumably matches, or evens exceeds, the amount of timetabled lessons.

Fekko · 04/02/2018 16:08

Here it’s up to 2 hrs a night and maybe 3 over the weekend (but school is half day on Saturdays).

AtiaoftheJulii · 04/02/2018 16:28

Seeing as sixth forms generally say for A levels that students should be doing an hour of work out of school for every hour they do in school (so e.g. my ds would ideally be aiming at 18), this is clearly ridiculous. My y10 dd works a LOT imo (combination of frequent absences caused by health issues, and a touch of perfectionism) but doesn't reach this many hours, and I'd be concerned if she was.

nocampinghere · 05/02/2018 18:44

i saw that too. SRR by any chance?

Springtrolls · 05/02/2018 18:51

Looking at the homework my ds gets I think it’s worked out on the maximum time needed based on writing and reading skills being so different.
Looking at the week around 20 hours would seem about right for homework. But again it’s based on abilitiy and the maximum. For example on piece is supposed to take 45 minutes. He completed this in less than 30.

Same with any educational institution. They say you will need x amount of hours a week but it varies if needed.

nocampinghere · 05/02/2018 18:58

"How much study is the right amount in Year 10 & 11? At XXX we would say roughly 3 hours a night during the week and 5 hours a day at weekends. Don’t worry if you go under or over day to day, but aim for 25 hours a week. "

3 hours a night? what time do they think these kids should go to bed? No sport? No extra curricular?

Petalflowers · 05/02/2018 19:09

My dis is in year 11 and has been told he should be revising two hours per night and there're at the weekend.

Whiskers4 · 07/02/2018 15:41

DD was in Year 11 last year. I'd say she did 2-3 hours at night and 4-5 hours at the weekend. She was on the old graded system and wanted to perfect her coursework though.

She's now at private school on a scholarship (not academic) and the hours for shells-Upper Sixth are far longer 8.10am registration and ends at 9pm (after prep, ie homework). On top of that they're doing lessons on a Saturday morning and a sports session as part of their PE.

BubblesBuddy · 07/02/2018 16:04

I see things slightly differently from others who have posted. This is all about admissions and what type of chid/parent they want. I would bet they have not put this "requirement" in the in the official prospectus. The admissions process as described in the Prospectus (or separately on the web site) is the legal "bible" when it comes to admission into the school. What they are doing is slyly circumventing that to get the most engaged children and parents, as they see it. They have put it into the social media domain so parents make a judgement on that criteria, as everyone has on this thread. It is not a criteria that is offically set out but it will put the "wrong"" type of parents off.

They very likely do not set this amount of work or expect it. They want people who believe in homework though and are ambitious for their children on the academic front. I think it is utterly wrong and they should be making a lot more of the rounded education they provide and that homework for hours on end is not justifiable or expected.

It is a form of sly selection.

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