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Add a subject, bin a subject

181 replies

noblegiraffe · 28/01/2018 20:40

Lots of cries of 'why aren't they taught X at school, it's really important' with the response 'what would you like to see binned to make the time for that?'
I would like to add all aspects of managing finances - mortgages, credit, car finance, gambling, loans, costs associated with owning/renting a home, savings, investments, interest rates, the general economy. I know it's supposedly done a bit in PSHE, but I'd want it done properly. With homework and tests.

In order to make space for this I would bin: KS3 Drama.

You don't have to bin a whole subject, so for example you could bin the study of poetry in English, or anything involving circuits from science, but you can't bin the study of oxbow lakes from Geography and replace it with learning Latin - they should take about the same time.

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Fruitloopcowabunga · 28/01/2018 20:42

Art, textiles, drama!

Fruitloopcowabunga · 28/01/2018 20:43

Sorry, posted too soon - I would bin all those.Agree with your suggestion.

SweepTheHalls · 28/01/2018 20:44

Add in touch typing
Get rid of having to learn equations, poems etc. Be allowed formula sheets and books in exams as grown ups look stuff up.

noblegiraffe · 28/01/2018 20:44

You've freed up a lot of time by binning all three, what would you like to add on top of finance, fruitloop?

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MaisyPops · 28/01/2018 20:50

I would like to add all aspects of managing finances - mortgages, credit, car finance, gambling, loans, costs associated with owning/renting a home, savings, investments, interest rates, the general economy
Agree. Can I kick the endless going over of 'don't bully' we have to do EVERY year. Then a special session on whatever type of bullying has been in the news so this year there was a big thing about trans bullying. Kids know not to bully. They don't need hour long PSHE lessons to tell them that.

But I would also like to have a ban on 'here is some survey'and then parents saying 'Put it into schools'. Some parents get awfully twitchy about us having a healthy eating policy because it's patronising and stabding on their toes but all sorts of life stuff they can't be arsed with, put it in schools obviously.

I'd like to cut analysing 19th century non fiction from the English Language GCSE spec. In fact, I would scrap the entire non fiction reading section and would replace it with spoken language where students would learn the craft of speaking well abd they'd study rhetoric and speeches over time.

MsAwesomeDragon · 28/01/2018 20:58

I'd definitely agree with adding the finance stuff.

I'd also like to see some proper life skills, like making meals you can feed a family with, household maintenance, family budgeting, etc. And to make time for that I'm ditching food tech as it is currently (or at least how it is in my school and dd1's school), where the bake and decorate cupcakes, or bake bread rolls (most adults I know don't bake their own bread, it's only 50p to buy a pack of them in the shop!)

MaisyPops · 28/01/2018 21:04

Or building on ms idea - more time actually cooking and the opportunity to do more advanced stuff if you can cook.

I remember having to spend 6 weeks planning to cook a pizza at ks3. 6 weeks! And even then when i wanted to be a bit more creative because i already did that at home and had for years, my 'extension' tasks was to fold it into a calzone and think about what might happen to the cooking time?

Could you imagine if an English teacher said 'now then everyone i know you're 13 but you are all going to have the same reading book: biff and chip so I caj cater for the lowest common denominator. Oh and you guys who are more advanced, you can do thr extension task... read a different biff and chip book'. Angry

TheSecondOfHerName · 28/01/2018 21:07

I would add CPR (including how to use an AED) and first aid.

Bin trigonometry.

BoneyBackJefferson · 28/01/2018 21:11

MsAwesomeDragon

or bake bread rolls (most adults I know don't bake their own bread, it's only 50p to buy a pack of them in the shop!)

Unless they make pizza from scratch, then its a handy thing to know.

greendale17 · 28/01/2018 21:12

Bin- Drama, Art

Add- Finance, Health & Nutrition

RippleEffects · 28/01/2018 21:17

Bin one science and one English for those who are not going to get a decent grade and replace with a more basic English practical life skills like work on reading, spelling and basic letter writing.

Replace half dual science for those who are unlikely to achieve higher grades with more practical life skills like extended maths for the real world, budgeting etc.

Itmakesthereaderreadon · 28/01/2018 21:19

No, no, no! You're cutting all the good stuff. Loved art and poetry. You could make it optional for the kids whose parents don't teach them that stuff. Every penny counted in my house. We learned cooking, budgeting and politics from an early age. Art and poetry, not so much.

Scrap pshe (most is covered in English and 're) and do it then. I remember doing mortgages in maths.

notfuckingfootballagain · 28/01/2018 21:21

Bin endless repeats of the Tudors and WW2 and replace it with some other bits of history. Preferably one of those other bits should be the teacher's special subject from uni, the thing they're really excited about. Then they will all come out of school knowing different interesting things about history. One kid knows all about Charlemagne. The next is an expert on the Spanish Civil War. It would be fantastic.

Also, bin cross country running and replace it with politics from year 7 up, so that they understand what's going on in the world and why voting matters.

Slitherout · 28/01/2018 21:22

I'd bin PE, or rather make it optional for those interested in sports and spend the extra time on other subjects but introduce more physical activity into all other subjects, children learn better getting up and about every now and then.

Essexmum69 · 28/01/2018 21:24

I would add First Aid and basic life support with a recognised qualification. (An essential life skill)

Remove Dance/Drama (should be extracurricular activities)

Anasnake · 28/01/2018 21:28

Finance is already taught, it's a requirement of the citizenship curriculum.

DamsonGin · 28/01/2018 21:30

Ditch the Tudors in favour of some proper disability awareness, and ditch poetry in favour of life basics like how to look up on YouTube how fix a leaky tap.

Rylanmakesmyheartsmile · 28/01/2018 21:31

I'd scrap Study Work Skills and replace it with Life Skills - budgeting, mortgages/rent, living independently, first aid etc etc.

I'd also combine Computing & ICT and integrate Drama into English. With the extra teaching time (this would free up 2 periods a week, (out of a total of 30) I would separate out the Social Subjects and teach History & Geography separately. (Really don't give a damn what happens to Modern Studies)

noblegiraffe · 28/01/2018 21:32

Ana I said in the OP I wanted it taught properly. It is currently not taught properly.

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Fruitloopcowabunga · 28/01/2018 21:36

At this stage I would add more time for maths/English/ languages - DS is struggling because Secondary school has been quite a stretch. The amount of new concepts introduced in maths in the first 3 months has been way more than he can cope with.

SmilingButClueless · 28/01/2018 21:40

Bin RE at secondary school level (they should know the basics of the different religions by then, any actual religious practice should take place outside schools) and replace with proper work skills training / careers advice.

DamsonGin · 28/01/2018 21:45

Drop cubism in place of how not to be a knobhead or date a knobhead.

calzone · 28/01/2018 21:48

Bin Citizenship.

Absolute waste of time to be doing at gcse level but compulsory at our school.

Definitely add budgeting and running a home and shopping and cooking.

Also bin PE if not done for gcse and do first aid.

Bin Drama and add DIY.

LiveLifeWithPassion · 28/01/2018 21:56

Bin drama. Replace it with politics and sociology subjects so people are really aware of how societies work.
Art should stay but be more about expression and creativity.

EvilTwins · 28/01/2018 21:56

Everyone advocating binning drama, you're going with binning a massive number of useful life skills. Public speaking, presenting, working in teams, faking confidence even if you're not feeling it, empathy, speaking loudly enough so that people can hear you - all come out of drama if taught properly (ie not as part of English)

The poster wanting to bin PE and add physical activity in to other subjects because children learn better if they're moving about is talking nonsense BTW - that's been disproved on so many levels.

Also interesting that even though there aren't many posts on this yet, there are those wanting to ditch PE and at the same time those wanting schools to cover healthy living Hmm