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GCSEs 2018 (2)

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Stickerrocks · 15/12/2017 20:30

Pre-empting our 1000th post.

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LooseAtTheSeams · 22/12/2017 07:14

Kingscote that's a good system! DS did a combination of that and practice papers depending on subject. There were so many practice papers for geography, though.
DS seems happy with the amount of revision he did and knows it will ramp up again from January but at the moment the focus is on getting his coursework out of the way.

mmzz · 22/12/2017 07:45

When DS was revising for his mocks last month, he worked in one hour blocks. Maximum 3 hours on a school day (usually 1 or 2) and maximum 5 hours on Saturdays and on Sundays ( more often 3 or 4).

I don't think he found it difficult to build up the stamina to do an hour, and as some of the exam papers are around 2 hours long, being able to concentrate for extended periods is necessary.

From my own school / university / professional exams days, I think the best way is to learn the material one chapter, or topic, at a time and then use the past papers to highlight areas of weakness and to learn how to time yourself so you don't t run out of time in the exam.

The problem with past papers is that there are never enough of them, as the style of questions and the syllabus changes slightly every few years. So, even if these exams weren't all new anyway, doing lots of past papers now would mean that in April and May, there won't be any fresh past papers to work from. And that's when you really need them to start checking what you know, timing yourself and generally honing exam technique.

mmzz · 22/12/2017 07:46

MNHQ need to fix the glitch on the android app that takes or all the paragraphs!

hmcAsWas · 22/12/2017 09:17

I think cocentrating in an exam for a couple of hours is very different from concentrating when revising. The adrenaline helps focus in an exam

When revising however, many students think they have revised for 4 hours because they have sat in front of their books all morning....but in reality their attention has wandered, they’ve checked their social media, stared nto space etc

TheSecondOfHerName · 22/12/2017 09:20

So, even if these exams weren't all new anyway, doing lots of past papers now would mean that in April and May, there won't be any fresh past papers to work from. And that's when you really need them to start checking what you know, timing yourself and generally honing exam technique

This is definitely an issue. Past papers are a limited resource, but this year it's particularly problematic.

Teenmum60 · 22/12/2017 09:47

DD quite lucky with a reasonable amount of past papers - I think most of her exams are IGCSE. She's tended to work the opposite way round and do a past paper which has highlighted lack of knowledge and then focused on this topic. She has already done numerous past papers at school in revision classes. One thing that has come to light was the importance of really reading the questions and understanding what is required. She did a French paper and would have earned no marks for one of the higher marks questions because she interpenetrated question incorrectly.
Still fast asleep ...

Stickerrocks · 22/12/2017 11:39

I teach students to pass professional exams at post grad level. My students still struggle with the difference between identify, explain, describe and so on. We have to teach them how to follow the verb in the requirement.

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LooseAtTheSeams · 23/12/2017 08:33

Hmmm...DS's school 6th form has invited him to a music audition/Interview - Music is only supposed to be a reserve option! I think it might be useful experience, though, to do the interview.

drummersmum · 23/12/2017 23:22

Very best luck to him loose! He may end up taking music a level ha ha...

LooseAtTheSeams · 24/12/2017 15:50

Thanks drummers - who knows! I wouldn't be surprised if he changes his mind again!

DoNotBringLulu · 24/12/2017 19:17

Merry Christmas to you all and you dcs! Let's look forward to a relaxing break...I've just had some photos professionally done of my ds and dd for their grandparents and they look so grown up. Just makes me think these GCSEs will be over in a blink, looking at the bigger picture!

Stickerrocks · 24/12/2017 23:08

We've handed out the traditional school photo, with the realisation that it will be the last one.

Merry Christmas and a very successful 2018 to you all too.

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drummersmum · 28/12/2017 19:15

What does it mean whan an English paper says closed text or open text? (Checking it means what I think it does)

TheSecondOfHerName · 28/12/2017 19:52

Open text = they have access to a clean (unannotated) copy of the text during the exam.

Closed text = no access to a copy of the text during the exam.

LooseAtTheSeams · 28/12/2017 19:55

To me, closed text means you can't take a copy of the text in with you and open text or open book means you can. I think all GCSE literature papers are now closed book exams.

LooseAtTheSeams · 28/12/2017 19:57

X-post but we agree!
There is a variation where open book means you take the exam paper away and can use your notes/text to answer the questions and return the answer by a certain date and time, but that wouldn't be at GCSE or A level.

drummersmum · 28/12/2017 20:32

Thanks everyone that fits my suspicions!

KingscoteStaff · 28/12/2017 22:41

For DS’s IGCSE, his novel and poetry will be closed text, but his drama open text.

drummersmum · 29/12/2017 10:48

kings is it Cambrige? It says one of the poems will be reprinted though.

KingscoteStaff · 29/12/2017 12:39

Yup, Cambridge.

You're right about the poetry. I thought there were 2 possible questions, one with a printed extract and one without, but having checked, the 3 past papers I can find have printed extracts for all the poetry questions.

So, a maths question: If 2 out of 15 poems will be selected on a paper, can a teenager risk only revising 13, or can he risk revising 8 in huge detail and 7 more sketchily?

drummersmum · 29/12/2017 13:08

They only have to answer one of the questions out of a choice of two. He should go for zero risk, which is revising 14 Smile. Otherwise, the two poems in the exam could be the two he hasn't revised or be taken out of the 7 he has revised sketchily. (sorry, stating the obvious) If revising 14 is not possible, then your second option is better.

Also, the closed text prose is a choice of two questions. The first one is to respond to a passage from the book which is printed in the paper. If he chooses that question, there's no need to memorize quotes.

KingscoteStaff · 29/12/2017 13:45

My argument exactly on the poetry. Imagine the horror of opening the paper to find the only 2 you hadn't revised staring you in the face...

On the novel, if you don't learn your theme quotes well, you can bet your bottom dollar that the extract question will be uncongenial.

Learning quotes all the way here, even on the drama - I bet lots waste time searching through the unmarked text for apt excerpts...

DS is getting very bored of my enthralling tales of cycling to school with Tess quotes on my Walkman (what even is that?).

drummersmum · 29/12/2017 14:48

DS is getting very bored of my enthralling tales of cycling to school with Tess quotes on my Walkman
Grin
Kings DS is not learning quotes at all - even less so for drama. They have done a lot of work at school - brilliant teacher he has - so lots of them have stuck anyway. His revision goals are knowing what to focus on when responding to a text and writing within the 45 minutes. He tends to write too much and choose his words for too long. As a result, his writing and essays are exceptional, but they take him take him over an hour! That's the one thing he needs to work on: TIME.

LooseAtTheSeams · 29/12/2017 14:51

It's a similar dilemma with AQA - they publish one poem from the anthology and ask a question about a theme in relation to that poem and one other poem from the anthology, so as well as trying to learn the quotations, students are trying to work out which poems are better for pairing up!

drummersmum · 29/12/2017 14:57

Loose if they publish the poems in the paper, then why learn the quotations? Sorry if I misunderstood.