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Concussion after accident in PE lesson at school

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WobblyLondoner · 03/11/2017 14:47

I’d appreciate some advice about this. Will try and keep short!

My son has just started in Y7 at secondary school. It was going fantastically well until a PE lesson in the final week before half term. They were doing contact rugby for the first time, having previously done touch rugby, with professional trainers supervised by the PE staff. My DS (who loves some sports but doesn’t really like ones that involve a lot of contact) was tackled during a jogging tackle drill and banged his head. He carried on playing but after the class said he felt dizzy and was taken to the medical room and we were called.

We took him to A&E and he was diagnosed with concussion, and has now been diagnosed with post-concussion syndrome. He was off school for a week, then it was half term, and he went back this week but has really struggled and we collected him early today. He is having problems reading (he says the words are fuzzy and float around), is still getting headaches and feeling nauseous, and is very anxious about being bumped and jostled. He’s not sleeping very well either, poor love.

There are 2 strands to this I’d welcome advice/views on.

The first is whether anyone has had experience of post-concussion syndrome. We’ve taken him to the doctors a few times now, and he has been seen at the hospital twice since the original concussion diagnosis (the last time during half term). The medics are always very reassuring and say his symptoms are classic post-concussion symptoms and that they will pass, with the recovery period varying from person to person. So if there is anyone who has had the experience of this with their child I’d be so grateful to hear it. Were there any things that your school put in place that helped them during their recovery?

The other thing I’d welcome views on is what you’d expect your school to do if this happened there. I’ve been a bit shocked at how relaxed the school seem to be. They have sent me (because I asked) an account of what happened, but it doesn’t tally with what my DS has said and they have not responded to us pointing this out. It isn’t clear whether he was actually knocked out. The school account specifically says not, but the tackle the account mentions was, according to my DS, an earlier one and not the one that caused the problem. At any rate, the hospital were very clear that you don’t need to be knocked out to suffer concussion.

After a few days faffing about trying to find out what happened I asked to see the head – but couldn’t get an appointment for over two weeks (though I appreciate half term will have been an issue here). The main thing we want to discuss with him is the PE lesson and what happened, but also to say that we feel let down by how poorly the school have communicated with us.

On the plus side, we have had support from the head of his year who we contacted early on, and she has suggested and implemented a few things to help (like being able to leave lessons early to avoid getting caught up in the crowds).

I really appreciate that schools have lots of pupils to worry about but I’d imagined that a child being that seriously hurt in a PE lesson would be something that really concerned them, and that they’d actively stay in touch with us, which hasn't been the case at all. Am I being a bit unrealistic?

Thanks if you've made it this far.

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Evelynismyspyname · 03/11/2017 17:59

Is contact sport compulsory? Did your son choose it from a contact and non contact option?

I must say I'd be unhappy with compulsory contact sport in PE for the next 4.5 years. If the child at this age had chosen to play contact rugby I'd be a lot more resigned and accepting than if there were no choice even for children who would rather stick with touch rugby or play football or basketball or do athletics etc

cansu · 03/11/2017 18:01

I am not sure what else the school could have done. They used professional coaches. Your ds was taken to medical room after accident. They called you and he was taken to a and e. What else could they have done? I hope he gets better soon but he had an accident. They can happen at any time. Sometimes no one is to blame.

WobblyLondoner · 03/11/2017 18:11

Evelyn, no choice re contact sport. Didn't know some schools allowed this.

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Evelynismyspyname · 03/11/2017 18:15

Do girls have to play contact sport Wobbly ?

We're abroad - there are more hours of compulsory sport in school despite shorter school day, but no contact sport for anyone. From year 7 they get a choice of two sports (choose in advance for a block, classes merged for PE so same staff to pupil ratios roughly). They usually have basketball, football, athletics, other more niche things less often, swimming is the only compulsory thing in two blocks per year.

Fffion · 03/11/2017 18:39

Here are the RFU's return to play rules

don't be a headcase

NumberEightyOne · 03/11/2017 18:54

There are loads of professional rugby players who are retiring due to concussion. There are rules in place now regarding concussion but I really doubt how effective they are.

CPtart · 03/11/2017 19:28

DS1 fell and banged his head and was knocked unconscious briefly in year 9. School informed us immediately, he went to A&E and ended up having a CT scan (all clear thankfully.) He was groggy for a few days but no lasting effects.
The headmaster called me the next day to give me a run-down and timescale of events and invited me into school to view CCTV footage which I declined. His accident was in part due to fooling around in the yard. I would be far more concerned if it had occurred within a structured PE lesson.

Evelynismyspyname · 03/11/2017 19:37

Yes - if child is messing around or it's a pure accident (trips over own feet) or has chosen the sport it's just one of those things. If contact sport is compulsory the child is being put in a risky position and PE staff have to be on absolutely high alert and sticking to the most stringent safety standards to the letter, and respond to any accidents with the most vigilant procedures... Really if you're going to make contact sport compulsory for 11 year olds your safety has to be ott and there is no room to be relaxed.

It's so uncomfortable to think children are made to play contact sport and not offered a non contact alternative, and then schools are relaxed about accidents with after effects lasting weeks.

bumblingbovine49 · 03/11/2017 19:39

Our school sent round some information including a video about concussion and how it can affect you. We were told to watch it with our children but it was also shown at school

I am sorry you are having to deal with this.

getmeoutofhere123 · 03/11/2017 22:40

I'm sorry to hear about your son's accident. I have experience of a family member suffering quite severe concussion and it's quite a frighting experience for everyone. I found information on the Headway website quite helpful and reassuring - I hope this helps you all too: www.headway.org.uk/about-brain-injury/individuals/types-of-brain-injury/minor-head-injury-and-concussion/living-with-concussion/

getmeoutofhere123 · 03/11/2017 22:43

Just to add.. we are a family in a sporting environment where concision is a rather unfortunately common occurrence. It takes each person a different length of time to recover.. some days, some weeks, some months.. but given time, things to return to normal.. so try not to worry too much.

NumberEightyOne · 04/11/2017 07:15

Do you worry about the long tern affects of those common concussions getmeoutofhere?

youarenotkiddingme · 04/11/2017 07:37

Sorry to hear your ds has been so unwell.

With regards trying to find out the truth and keeping on plugging away - I suspect they'll close ranks and doors harder.

My ds was involved in an incident (school were at fault for not putting things in place to prevent it when previously flagged up).
They were cool about it and told me what happened.
That was until ds had an adverse reaction and I asked them in writing what they were now going to do to prevent it as they'd failed to act.
Reports became very contradictory because they then went on a cover up (safeguarding issue) expedition.

I'd simply email and reassure them you don't blame them as realise and accept it's an accident. But you want to make sure they have proper risk assessments and have review head injury policy in case of future events.

restofthetimes · 04/11/2017 07:39

WobblyLondoner - don't get too hung up on what actually happened to cause the concussion. There's one word - rugby!

Seriously, though, my son got a concussion last Sunday at the local rugby club. He can't really be relied on to say what happened, he was talking about a knee three times in his face, but it seems like it was all a genuine tackle gone wrong.

In terms of how your son should be treated at school - honestly I think you need to tell them. Check out the return to play guidelines from the rfu and just stay on top of how much they are getting him to do academically as well.

Key that he can't return to vigorous sport for a bit.

www.englandrugby.com/my-rugby/players/player-health/concussion-headcase/#

The good thing is that the younger they are the better they recover.

You ought to be able to opt out of contact rugby as well, so discuss that with the school if you'd like to. My son has 50 boys in his year and 1 has opted out!

NumberEightyOne · 04/11/2017 07:51

All these repeated concussions can lead to CTE. The children may make a 'quick recovery' but the effects could well manifest themselves in the future.

endofthelinefinally · 04/11/2017 07:58

So sorry this has happened to you.
The same thing happened to us several years ago. The school lied and covered up.
It took 5 months before my child could go back to school.
Interestingly I never heard a peep about attendance. I am not sure how they got round that.
Make sure you get proper medical care for your ds and let him rest as much as he needs.
My dc slept for 18 hours a day for nearly 3 months before gradually getting back to normal.

Ophelia15 · 16/11/2017 18:19

Hi my son had an accident at school last year with amnesia and post concusion syndrom that lasted for months. Suggest you ask referral to see a neurologist ophtalmologiste if not getting better and ask the school what really happen

NooNooHead · 16/11/2017 19:55

I do worry about the long term effects of my concussion as well as getting any more. Since my concussion and post concussion syndrome, I have lost my ability to see in my mind’s eye (aphantasia) and I have very odd moments of my whole brain and thoughts literally slowing down, like my thoughts are wading through treacle. It is quite scary and worrying. The doctor has said it is prob post concussion amnesia which isn’t very reassuring! 😳🙄

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