Procedures after HPV injections

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Just wandering if there is anyone who knows what sort of procedures should be followed after these injections are administered.

My dd had hers today. They were sent straight back to the classroom. She then complained of feeling faint so was told to go to student services. This requires going down 3 flights of stairs. She had a friend with her. She fainted at the top of the stairs. Her friend ran back to the classroom and told the teacher. I hate to think what could have happened if she had made it onto the stairs.

Am I right in thinking an adult should have stayed with her or that she should have stayed where she was until she felt better. She could have fallen down 3 flights of stairs. I am really angry but not sure of the best way to complain.

TIA

Ill students get sent to student services. If they look a bit dodgy we send a friend with them in case something happens on the way. Teachers can't abandon their classes to walk someone over. If a child is really poorly, then first aid needs to be called to bring a wheelchair.

Having a teacher with her probably wouldn't have made any difference to falling down the stairs or not.

My DD and friends had to sit in a waiting room afterwards for at least 10 mins. Good job too as she also fainted.

Nurses run the injection sessions. They usually make the girls wait for 5-10 minutes before leaving. If they look pale then they stay longer, usually horizontal.

We get a team of school nurses, all but one administer the vaccinations and the final nurse floats.

If a student feels a bit wobbly immediately afterwards, they're moved to chairs / PE mats at the edge of the room until better.

If a student feels wobbly after leaving the room, they go to the medical room (opposite the room where the vaccinations are given).

If a student feels wobbly after returning to class, then they stay where they are and the class teacher sends a (fit and well) student to fetch a member of the school medical team.

I would have advised your daughter to stay where she was and sit down. If still feeling faint, I would have suggested she lie on the floor with her feet raised.

More of them feel funny after the HPV vaccine than after the DTP & MenACWY. Mostly headaches & dizziness.

OP, please make sure your daughter knows what to do the next time she feels faint:

Fainting advice

This is useful common sense first aid advice for anyone, and can prevent falls and resultant head injuries.

My DD had the first HPV - with the GP;s nurse but I have never ever seen her kick up a fuss to an injection before - the nurse was at the point of advising not to go ahead .. We decided not to have the second HPV .... I'm not against inoculations but I felt very uneasy about HPV - I do wish we had not gone ahead with the first injection ..My opinion not enough research or results on HPV yet...

Not enough results in what way? These vaccines are rigerously tested in a lab for about ten years before they are allowed into human patients. They dont give random vaccines willy nilly with no track record. I had these jabs about 8 years ago. The first one hurt a lot the 2nd two not as much. As for the fainting it happens to the best of us. The friend was sent with her as a precaution which is lucky as she needed someone with her. Hope shes ok now.

Well my GP's nurse stated to me that they have no results from the girls who have been given the HPV vaccine just clinical trial results ...when they can prove to me that this vaccine has proven results not clinical trials then I will consider .... we each have do what we think best !

[ www.sciencealert.com/the-hpv-vaccine-has-halved-cervical-cancer-rates-in-the-past-10-years ]

www.nhs.uk/news/medication/hpv-vaccine-results-do-not-apply-to-uk/

That link in 6 years old and more recent studies including ones from Scotland that use the same as in England & Wales have some amazing positive results about the effectiveness. www.netdoctor.co.uk/healthy-living/wellbeing/news/a27970/hpv-vaccine-success/

I’ve had treatment for cervical cancer, it is not pleasant. I don’t want my daughter experiencing what I did so I will be getting her vaccinated, her school have the first jabs early next year.

They only started using Gardasil in 2012 in the UK so they do not have any proven results - my understanding is that it will take 10 years to see the impact (they have swapped and changed from 3 jabs to 2 and then changed the actual vaccine since it was first introduced). Like I said previously we all have to do what we think is best and I personally felt uncomfortable with having the second jab.....

I had a feeling this might drift into a Gardasil debate. It's an emotive subject.

I guess it is emotive - my daughter has Hypermobility and therefore she is at risk of autoimmune diseases. She has had extreme joint pain since the vaccine but this also coincided with her periods starting too - pain is severe around her periods ...so we are not sure whether its hormonal etc ...she is on additional medication for 3 day's each month around her period ... The vaccine could have had some impact or it may have just been a coincidence but I sleep easier not going ahead with the second jabs.

If feeling faint she shouldn’t have been sent down without an adult.

Our school nurses made a point of saying (and asking us to tell the children) that it isn’t normal for them all to fall ill after. We always have an outrageous number of children claiming to be ill after which the nurses say cannot all be genuine! It’s a total wipeout day. Regardless, we still couldn’t just send kids wander around in case they are faking it!

All this hype about the HPV jab.
The kids get meningitis jab about the same age but nobody fusses about that. If anything, I bet the men. jab is less researched & tested.

Oh,but meningitis is not a SEXUALly transmitted disease. I'm sure that's just a wee coincidence that the men. jab attracts so little attention.

How could she have fallen down 3 flights of stairs? Are they spiral? If not, surely there are landings?

Barbarian - I did two flights on one go lost my footing and launched. Was a flight then a landing then another flight and I fell down the lot in one go. Landed on the bottom step

Fainting and dizziness is known to occur more with the HPV vaccination than other vaccinations, which is why procedures should be in place to monitor girls who have had it for 15 minutes or more.

I'm not here to start a vaccine debate and I'm not prepared to debate the pro's and con's of HPV vaccination with anyone, but if anyone wants to message me privately to discuss concerns about their daughter's health after the HPV vaccination, please do so.

I'm part of a group of parents who are trying to get support and healthcare for our daughters who developed health problems after HPV vaccination. We are not an anti-vax group, we all had our daughters vaccinated and we are trying to ensure healthcare and education is in place for the girls who do experience long term health problems.

If anyone wants to chat, please message me, otherwise our website is: www.timeforaction.org.uk

Our most recent post:
timeforaction.org.uk/campaign-news/open-letter-complaint-bbc-hpv-vaccination-screening/

Smear tests and colposcopies provoke a lot of negative symptoms in women, too. I think I'd rather faint after a couple of injections than have regular smear tests, months of concern when results come back abnormal and the possible removal of part of my cervix, or worse, full on cervical cancer.