Outrageously harsh school reprimands pupils for forgetting a pen

[noblegiraffe]

They're scraping the bottom of the barrel with these 'strictest school in the country' stories now.

www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-41496276

Are these parents serious? Kids crying because if they forget a pen 6 times they get a detention?

SEND YOUR KIDS TO SCHOOL WITH A SODDING PEN. AND A SPARE. AND AN EMERGENCY PEN IN A SECRET POCKET IN THEIR SCHOOLBAG.

And breathe.

Shyness rankings like this overlook the fact that, while the academic outcomes from many of these countries is excellent, many of these countries don't teach their students to think for themselves.

Learning is almost by rote and students aren't shown how to think "outside of the box"

DH has worked in some of these countries as a freelance consultant (engineering) and he always complains about how much hand holding they need and how little initiative they have.

How does your link demonstrate that "practically all other countries have a much better educational outcome" How many countries do you think there are in the world?

2? The UK and the Rest of the World?

Soli. Mi dum. U clevr.

Clearly

scaryclown

noblegiraffe

I have bright sparkly pens with 'Stolen from Ms Sashh' on them, they tend to come back. But I have been in schools where you have to issue a detention if they don't have a pen.

Shyness rankings like this overlook the fact that, while the academic outcomes from many of these countries is excellent, many of these countries don't teach their students to think for themselves.

Can they remember a pen though?

If they have been told to, then yes.

Don't start me on the inability of students to bring i a pencil. I have come across students who have their equipment but can't be bovvered to get it out of their bags. I hate blazers as a uniform item but they are very useful for students to use as a mobile pencil case.

sashh did you have the pens made specially or just use a Sharpie?

The punishment is detention and l haven't heard of anyone dying from detention yet so its not a big deal. I could never understand kids coming without stuff until l had my own. My ds could lose a pen between the table and the front door. They just disappeared. He has dyspraxia and paid a far higher price than detention. Regular abuse and shaming from some teachers for losing stuff eenroute to class. It was a nightmare.

june
So why don't you get a set of pens and he has one with each teacher as a backup?
That's what I had for a student last year.

Unfortunately, students do need to learn to be prepared and organised. Some may need additional strategies to get there but the standard still remains.

Had to do all that in the end . Had a second set of textbooks at home. Now at university and laptop all the way. Assignments put in online so can't go missing. He is doing great and hopefully will work in an area where he doesn't have to carry around too much stuff . Although gradually he has found strategies that help.

That sounds like the set up I've had with parents in your situation june.

My view is that the standard is there for a reason and the expectation is right, although some children need a bit more help to meet that expecation.

I started out lending pens. Then selling them. Then collecting spares to lend.
Then I just shrugged and said “not my problem”. Initially they would say “well I can’t do my work then” and I would still shrug and repeat “not my problem. Sounds like your problem to me”. Then I’d ignore them. Within 10 minutes they would always have found one or borrowed one. Far more relaxing.

noblegiraffe

Had them made, well ordered them online. There was a half price offer on at the time.

www.nationalpen.co.uk/uk/default.asp?headerCategory=Home&UID=049048057049053049050057056049

Yes I am quite anal about some things.