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GCSE Results Day 2017

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justmumof1 · 21/08/2017 06:45

Hard to belive that I was here 5 years ago sweating it out for the results of his secondary school offer!

Only a few days now bwfore the GCSE results come out. DS is starting to get nervous....as am I!

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ProfessorLayton1 · 25/08/2017 07:20

Thank Gove for this confusion..
How about children for whom a grade makes a difference between a pass and a fail? Getting the apprenticeship they have lined up or not?
While I agree that parents may have not grasped the finer details of the changes, I don't like the randomness of this!
We all don't know how the university will be treating these kids - how they will differentiate between 6,7,8,9..
Total nightmare..for both the teachers and students( parents caught in between)
What would the teachers say to a high achieving child next year ? Total pot luck between 7 and 9 - oh the difference between them is 10 marks?
Is there any data regarding how many got 8s in English language/ literature this time ? would be interesting to see this data and also to get those papers remarked to see how many would go a grade up?
Was this 2.2% for 9 fixed before hand if not how was this decided??
Sorry to ask so many questions...

Thegiantofillinois · 25/08/2017 07:51

I thought the whole point was that very few kids would get a 9. Sometimes 1 mark off is just that- not quite there. It's to differentiate the very best. Not everyone is going to get that. An 8 is still a top grade.

tiggytape · 25/08/2017 07:54

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Redsrule · 25/08/2017 07:57

I had pupils who I felt got 100% in their mocks but I still predicted an 8 because of a 9 being a national %. We knew it would be around 3% to get a 9 but they go back to KS2 tests to assess the ability of the national year group. An 8 is still a great result,

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Showandtell · 25/08/2017 08:05

Surely a 7 is a really good result Confused

8 and 9 is exceptional?

Piggywaspushed · 25/08/2017 08:20

For those of you after some stats:

schoolsweek.co.uk/gcse-results-2017-uk-subject-tables/

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MsHarry · 25/08/2017 08:23

I am over the moon with my DDs 3x 8s. She had hoped for 9s in Eng due to mock score and being top of her class(5a in sats, won english award etc) but was really happy. It's pretty much due to another pupil getting 9 who got 5 in her mock and B/Cs in everything else. It's like little niggle in her mind. i was actually hoping school would say to leave it but they felt the same! Maisy we did have the new system explained, she just wants to check how close she was, not necessarily a remark. AQA should have just printed the marks on the results sheet like everyone else imo. They've caused a lot of extra work for schools and teachers.

Danglingmod · 25/08/2017 08:27

But they did send them to the school, just not print them on the results slips.

Ds's HO English came round with the spreadsheet and told everyone marks per paper.

MsHarry · 25/08/2017 08:30

Oh did they? I thought they had to be accessed on a database. We were told yesterday AQA site had crashed so they couldn't retrieve her marks.

MsHarry · 25/08/2017 08:40

If you request a review or priority review of marking (previously known as a re-mark):

The above is from AQA website.

TheFallenMadonna · 25/08/2017 08:46

It is not a re-mark because previously, the paper would just be marked again. If there was a difference I judgement over how the mark scheme should be applied, the later mark would stand. This time, a difference in judgement will not overrule the original mark. Only if the mark scheme has been unreasonably applied will the mark change. English marks used to be far more labile than Maths marks under the old system, because of this judgement in applying the mark scheme thing.

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MsHarry · 25/08/2017 08:53

Misleading to refer to it as 'previously known as a re-mark' then isn't it?

Does 'identifying unreasonable marking' not cover reassessing the answers?

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TheFallenMadonna · 25/08/2017 09:04

It involves checking that the mark given is reasonable. A best fit mark scheme is subject to some judgement calls. So I might place an answer at the top of the band, and someone else might place it in the middle. It's why schools moderate CAs and annotate the heck out of them before they are sent off. To justify the judgement call.

MaisyPops · 25/08/2017 09:05

More accurately, it is a mathematical way of drawing a line in the sand between 7 and 9.
They then stick the Grade 8 boundary at the half way point between the two.
The point is that it is used to discriminate the very top each year. So where the grade 9 boundary falls depends on the distribution of marks each year.

It's to differentiate the very best. Not everyone is going to get that. An 8 is still a top grade.
Yes. A few of laughed when these changes were released that you could predict people bitching about the grade 9 when their child is the 8 side of the 8/9 divide (but they'd be happy with an A* which included both). But they wouldn't be complaining if their child got the 9. 8s and 9s are really great marks.

What would the teachers say to a high achieving child next year ? Total pot luck between 7 and 9 - oh the difference between them is 10 marks?
You teach your class the material and stretch them as far as you can and not stress about grade boundaries.

It's not pot luck. It just required more than playing the exam game. I tell mine that if they are looking for a simple, step by step way to 'get a 9', they're not a grade 9 student.

You don't get a grade 9 by ticking things off a checklist and calculating where to pick up individual marks. You get a 9 by having an exceptional grounding in the subject across the whole spec and texts and by applying knowledge in a way that is original, critical and with flair with reference to the question.

I got some grade 9s this year from students who were targeted 6s. If the questions were different, maybe they'd have not had the same flair. But they had exceptional knowledge, liked the question and when I saw the question later, I knew it would suit them.

MsHarry · 25/08/2017 09:09

Thanks so much for taking the time to explain. Will see what happens next. I do feel a bit sad that DD, having gained A*(or equivalent) in all bar one GCSE, is bothered so much by this. I guess it's that competitive streak that drives her and has got her to this stage.

Eusebius · 25/08/2017 09:23

I wasn't in the U.K when the grading system changed to include As BUT..would they have made the same argument for them as they are making for 9's now? ^only the exceptional would get a A?' On this forum alone it seems quite a few have already had the magic '9', I know the kids on MN exceptional Wink.

TheFallenMadonna · 25/08/2017 09:25

That's the point of making 1 the lowest grade. You can keep adding numbers at the top!

MsHarry · 25/08/2017 09:28

I am surprised by the number of 9s having been told they would be rare. No doubt this is niggling DD too especially as she isn't one of them

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