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GCSEs 2018

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DoNotBringLulu · 12/08/2017 16:19

Hi all, I am sure many of us with dc going into year 11 this year are trepidatious about teachers and pupils thrown in at the deep end due to the new GCSEs.

There is one thing I can do which I hope will help my ds (even though he thinks I'm mad!), which is to get hold of this year's GCSE English Language and English Literature papers, read the books and work through the paper myself - I studied English Lit at university over 20 years ago. I will know for myself after I've done this how difficult the exam papers are at least - I'm not sure who I can ask to mark it for me though!

Can anybody tell me how challenging the Maths and English papers were for their dc? I understand these were the two subjects introduced with the new format.

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BackforGood · 19/08/2017 22:25

My dc work an 8 hour shift.... a 'working day'.

Not sure why you are out to somehow 'diss' the job lljkk Confused. If it's not for you, then it's not for you, which is fine Smile but I've known quite a few youngsters who have done the qualification and the main reason they like it (apart form the above min wage pay) is that they don't have to work a set pattern, so it fits around other things they do. It's a line of work where the 'zero hours contract model' seems to work for the employees rather than only the employers.

However, this is derailing the thread (sorry OP)

lljkk · 19/08/2017 22:43

Sorry to derail. I'd be delighted if DD wanted to be a lifeguard but I think she'd look at the maths I wrote about & decide it was too much investment for too much risk & little gain.

notsomanky · 20/08/2017 10:15

We paid for DS1 to do his FA referee course as his 14th birthday present. It was about £150 including his first years official registration/membership.

The least he has earned has been £15 for refereeing 3 x 15 minute matches for the under 7 age group.

With an eye to the future it's going to look good on personal statements for college/university/job applications.

He really enjoys it, and manages the conflict well - his confidence has grown in leaps and bounds!

It's been worth it for us and him!

Most of his friends don't have jobs, though one does have a local paper round. He gets £4 for delivering to 100 houses, and a bit more if there are a lot of leaflets.

Going back to studying/revising in the holidays - he still has not opened a book or looked at his notes. I think I am going to be grey by next June!

Sadik · 23/08/2017 22:19

Anyone else going in to collect the results of early GCSEs tomorrow? DD will be getting English & Welsh lang, fingers crossed for something good enough that she doesn't have to resit . . .

mmzz · 28/08/2017 08:16

Has anyone seen the grade boundaries for the new 9-1 GCSEs that our DC will be sitting?
Maths and English started this year. You need about 77-80% to get a 9 for both subjects but only 17% to pass maths.

For 17% you would only need to know how to do a small handful of questions.

Maybe it's not going to be as challenging as it was made out to be?

LooseAtTheSeams · 28/08/2017 08:55

The grade boundaries this year had to be adjusted to ensure roughly the same number of students got a 4 this year as a C last year. I don't think it will necessarily be the same for English and maths next year, although it does suggest that rule will apply to the other subjects that switch in 2018.

mmzz · 28/08/2017 09:04

Why did that adjustment have to be made?

LooseAtTheSeams · 28/08/2017 11:41

Because the content was a lot harder and there hadn't been enough time for schools to adjust to the new syllabus - especially in maths. Taking the controlled assessments out of English and adding another exam put a lot more pressure on students as well but I get the impression the harder maths (brought in topics that were previously A level) really meant the grade boundaries had to be adjusted for the pass mark.

notsomanky · 29/08/2017 15:15

DS1 has opened his Maths correction folder! Shock

ProfessorLayton1 · 29/08/2017 16:32

Dd17 years just finished her GCSEs and has done lifegaurd certificate has lined up a job at the local private pool and they are paying 10.50per hour Wink

TheSecondOfHerName · 30/08/2017 12:43

DS2 has been staying with family friends in France for a week. There's a boy his age who speaks some English, but hopefully DS2 has been speaking French most of the time.

He has been volunteering in the library over the summer holidays and wants to do the same next summer.

Sadik · 30/08/2017 12:54

£10.50 is good TheSecond - the beach lifeguards here only get £8 or £8.50 an hour I think. DD may do her qualification next easter though I'm not sure she'll want to put in the time in the gym / swimming to get through. She's very tiny, so although she's pretty fit she'll have to really go for it if she wants to pass - and I suspect she may when it comes to it decide that she wants the time to revise given there's plenty of other jobs around here.

hertsandessex · 30/08/2017 18:25

My daughter did GCSEs this year and I would echo the comment above that maths seems to have presented more problems with the change from previous years than English. The lack of practice papers with the right style of questions seemed to be a real problem plus uncertainty about grade boundaries. In the end it seems most people got around where they would have done under the old system. Also as per the many warnings 9 are hard to come by. There were many children basically getting As in most other subjects but in English and Maths getting 7/8/9 or 8/8/8. A few got a couple of 9s and one got three but much harder to get than As.

Stickerrocks · 30/08/2017 18:34

OP If you are in the Hampshire area (visiting the Mary Rose) applications open for 6th form on 15 September. They start interviewing in mid-October and will send out offer letters between January - March. Most of the colleges had initial open evenings for year 10 in July, but there is another flurry of activity on September/October.

My 15 year old is getting £5 p.h. working at the local tennis club.

DoNotBringLulu · 31/08/2017 04:40

Thanks Stickerrocks yes we are in Hampshire. I've seen a local 6th form college has open evening early October. My ds does not know what he wants to do.

On the subject of English....a friend's ds did very well in English Lit. He was predicted a 5/6, got an 8. He went on utube and found tutorials which were really good apparently....someone pointed out earlier that past papers not available until May anyway; on reflection ds can find access to great revision material. I got him some home tuition for maths back in year 8, I offered to do this again and he said that utube has some helpful tutorials and he will be ok.

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Oddsocks15 · 01/09/2017 07:45

Haven't read the whole of the thread as I really need to go to work! Anyway just a quick line to say I have watched some Mr Bruff YouTube videos to try and help DD as she feels English is her weakest subject. Have encouraged her to watch them too but not sure she has. Printed off past English papers (at her request) from AQA website but these are the old spec. Can't find a copy of the paper that was sat in May this year.

IAmTheBFG · 01/09/2017 07:58

Hi, my eldest daughter is going into year 11 this year. The school set her a hugge amount of homework over the summer, particulalrly in relation to English Lit, was this the case for anyone else? The poor thing also has a set of mock exams in the first week back so she hasn't really been able to fully relax over the holidays.

We're not particularly worried about the changes to the GCSEs, but my daughter is finding the lack of past papers very frustrtaing, especially for subjects like the sciences and maths. She is also starting to regret taking History, Geography and RE on top of doing a language as although she loves the lessons for the humanities, when it comes to revising there does seem to be an awful lot to cover.

She is tremendously self motivated so I have been able to take a more hands off approach , whereas my youngest daughter needs a bit more support in organising her time. I have read her English Lit set texts and the poetry and although I haven't studied English Lit beyod A Level we have discussed them together. She also often asks me to test her verbally on what she has been revising, so she gives me her notecards and I ask her questions on them. The school do seem to be offering a fair bit of support as well : there are optional revision calsses being put on allready and intevention classes for those below their target grade.

She is very much looking forward to going back to school, the holidays felt like forever to her and she has missed all her friends.

LooseAtTheSeams · 01/09/2017 08:49

Mr Bruff's stuff is great! I think the best help parents can give is testing on quotes or key facts on file cards - so impressed parents already doing this! Active revision is the way to go.
DS1 got a fair amount of holiday homework and hasn't finished it but I don't think there are any mocks until at least November.
I am slightly regretting letting DS1 do music and art because he is so slow at completing coursework so I just know there will be an horrendous rush at the last minute.
Lessons learned for when DS2 chooses options!

DoNotBringLulu · 01/09/2017 10:46

It would be great if we could keep the thread going while they are in year 11.....I am reading Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde at the moment, only 3 chapters in, it reads like a teen book to me. It's easier than Thomas Hardy, so it could be worse.

There is a facebook group for ds's year, but many of them have issues with the school and go on about how it's rapidly going downhill, which isn't helpful. A lot of teachers have left, but they've been replaced this year apart from one maths teacher. My ds says he is changing tutors this year, but to a Geography teacher who he likes, and changing maths teacher, and that's it, so it's not too bad.

To make things as organised and relaxed as possible for ds, we are putting a TV in his room after sorting out the aerial, getting some shelves organised for him in the study (he has everything in a pile and sometimes gets stressed when stuff gets lost), bought him some cards, highlighters and he can keep biscuits in his drawer!

Even though the GCSEs we are told are more difficult, at least these days there is utube and more support from the school. I left with 3 O'Levels; my secondary school wasn't very supportive and studied for more at evening classes.

He hasn't been given vast amounts of work to do over the summer (or so he says!). He's working on a project about Elizabeth I and has been asked to watch the film with Cate Blanchett - it's not historically accurate, but at least conveys some of Elizabeth's issues.

IAmtheBFG I know what your dd means about lack of past papers, it has been concerning me as going through past papers has helped me pass exams. I am wondering if the teachers can compensate somehow and set questions in the style of what will be asked.

Ds's Head Teacher is running 15 minute sessions for parents to go in and talk to her, I may take advantage of that and make an appointment to see her.

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ProfessorLayton1 · 01/09/2017 11:17

What is MrBruff's stuff?

mmzz · 01/09/2017 12:18

There's a good study guide for Jekyll and Hyde. Cgp or similar. The explanations in the study guide of the various themes in the novel are infinitely better than the handouts DS was given in school (he did Jekyll and Hyde in year 10). If you're reading it, you'll see it's one of those books that had layers and layers of themes.

mmzz · 01/09/2017 12:20

utube is YouTube, right??

LooseAtTheSeams · 01/09/2017 12:27

CPG Jekyll and Hyde is good. It has the necessary context.
Mr Bruff has lots of YouTube videos on every exam question for English language and the set texts for English literature. His e-book for English language is also full of good advice.

Stickerrocks · 01/09/2017 14:04

Please can someone reassure me that I'm not the only parent who isn't going near any GCSE material? My job is to gently remind DD to go to work/ do her homework, provide a taxi service & pay for any books. We vaguely know what she's studying, but the rest of it is down to her. I'm a professional exam tutor (post grad level) by trade, but if I tried to teach her any exam technique or material, she would be horrified.

hertsandessex · 01/09/2017 14:17

Yes Stickerrocks - that pretty much sums up what we did this year. I am explicitly banned from trying to help with the detail :)

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