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Free school doesn't enter entire Y11 for any GCSEs as they would all fail.

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noblegiraffe · 27/07/2017 18:20

www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/free-school-gcse-exams-no-year-11-pupils-mature-enough-not-ready-route-39-academy-north-devon-a7863006.html

There were only 13 pupils in Y11 at Route 39 Academy, but none of them were entered for any GCSEs, because they were 'neither academically ready nor sufficiently mature or resilient to have taken the examinations'.

What on earth is going on at that school?

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noblegiraffe · 27/07/2017 18:22

They've just been inspected by Ofsted and declared Inadequate in all areas.

So much money will have been ploughed into this school.

Free school doesn't enter entire Y11 for any GCSEs as they would all fail.
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BrexitSucks · 27/07/2017 18:40

Wow. Is it a case they took kids who were mostly massive underachievers at entry? Their blurbs seem to say as much.

Blueemeraldagain · 27/07/2017 18:44

That's very worrying but I find the safeguarding and attendance concerns even more worrying! Sounds like a disaster overall.

flyingwithwings · 27/07/2017 18:44

This is what is wrong with state education and the 'definite' time schedule (no excuses or changes to a curriculum or allowances for children to take exams when they are ready ). Why can't pupils have another year if they are not at the appropriate level for taking GCSEs

As well as being a strong advocate of grammar schools, i believe pupils should take exams (the correct number not the '11' nonsense some schools insist on when a child is only going to get C grade at Maths and English) !

Rulerruler · 27/07/2017 18:48

I think they took children who were excluded from mainstream education and had additional challenges.

flyingwithwings · 27/07/2017 18:48

The pupil getting the best possible grades should be central to all schools not a 'statutory' demand that all state pupils must take GCSEs at 16 !

StealthPolarBear · 27/07/2017 18:49

Disaster :(

BubblesBuddy · 27/07/2017 18:51

In that case they are a "pru" in reality. We do need more schools that will take the most difficult young people but I think the schools need to be better than this and, in effect, this is a special school. Not sure if it is funded as such though or has appropriate staff.

Blueemeraldagain · 27/07/2017 18:56

If they want to be an alternative provision (I teach in an SEMH school) then they should just say so.
The vast majority of our Year 11s take GCSEs. They all did this year (8) and two (of 11) will take alternative, more appropriate qualifications.

Some PPs make valid points about when qualifications should be taken, although progress was slammed across the school. I would be interested to know if these year 11s (or any others) were entered for any of the myriad of alternative qualifications available.

Out2pasture · 27/07/2017 19:02

Highly specialized schools need to be marked as such so that people don't confuse the results.

LoniceraJaponica · 27/07/2017 19:18

"As well as being a strong advocate of grammar schools"

Why?

What happens to the pupils who don't get in? In grammar school LAs the alternatives are usually less than desirable. So how do you propose to improve the quality of education for the less academically able students or those from families who can't afford to pay for tuition to pass the 11+.

The grammar school system as it exists now is flawed.

Fortunately DD goes to an excellent comprehensive school that supports all students regardless of their academic capability.

Blueemeraldagain · 27/07/2017 19:36

Highly specialized schools need to be marked as such so that people don't confuse the results.

Why? The SEMH school I teach at has got "Good" from Ofsted for the last two inspections. Plenty of Good and Outstanding Special/specialist schools out there.

noblegiraffe · 27/07/2017 19:56

Oh dear, I've just read the Ofsted report:

"From discussions with leaders and governors and the examination of internal documentation, the decision to defer entry of Year 11 pupils to examinations for a year seems to have been driven at least as much by organisational concerns as by a consideration of individuals pupils’ educational needs. Specifically, the delay in the availability of the sixth-form provision until the school’s new building is completed in time for the academic year 2018/19 appears to have played a significant part in the decision-making process. In addition, when challenged as to why some pupils (for example, the most able) could not take some of the examinations at the usual time, leaders cited the perceived difficulties of teaching in small groups rather than justifying it in terms of the educational best interests of the pupils concerned."

And "In relation to the current Year 11, school leaders themselves judge that pupils have made such inadequate progress that they believe they would have significantly underachieved had they been entered for public examinations at the end of key stage 4. As a cohort, however, these pupils had average attainment at the end of key stage 2 that was higher than the national figure. This is an indication that teaching has failed to promote sufficient progress for these pupils. The work of pupils in Year 11 confirms this. It is also clear, however, that there are individual pupils who could have succeeded in public examinations had they been entered at the usual time."

So there were kids who should have been entered for GCSEs but they were held back because the school sixth form wasn't ready.

This isn't a special school or a PRU, it's just a catastrophically badly run one Shock

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flyingwithwings · 27/07/2017 20:05

Lonicera . Perhaps you believe the pupils at this 'Free School' would be better off at your children's comprehensive. These children have obviously got issues other than just academic precluding them from being educated in 'bog standard' comprehensive down the road!

Personally i think these children are better off out of the mainstream educational environment .

Nobody would choose this free school, if they really thought their child was Oxbridge bound .

The reason i am advocate for grammar schools is because they cater soley for their audience i.e bright children ! Therefore in the same way we should have a non special school that caters for children not academically bright !

noblegiraffe · 27/07/2017 20:08

These kids had above average achievement on entry to the school, flying. They've just been totally failed by the school.

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Blueemeraldagain · 27/07/2017 20:09

So, bluntly put, they've trapped these students to try and force them to go to the new 6th form?

flyingwithwings · 27/07/2017 20:12

Noble. The parents could not have been very active then if this is a mainstream environment ....

Also what grades do you declare as succeeding ?

Maybe 2 of the 13 might have got a couple of F grades, is it really in any pupils interest to be entered in to GCSEs , if realistically that is the best they can get !

Blueemeraldagain · 27/07/2017 20:15

I will say, not to defend this shower at all, but many/most of the students who attend the school I teach at have averageish attainment at KS2. Their difficulties (social, emotional or mental health related) really have a greater effect during their teenage years, this, combined with the amount of assistance provided during some SATs exams, means our students nearly always "under achieve". They still get amazing results considering the challenges they face.

How can they be allowed to expand given all that has come out now?

noblegiraffe · 27/07/2017 20:15

But flying, they entered the school with above average attainment. They would have got F grades five years ago.

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flyingwithwings · 27/07/2017 20:17

These kids had above average achievement on entry to the school, flying. They've just been totally failed by the school.

Who knows what has happened to them or their families in the 4 years previous to year 11 !

For all i know the school could be 'crap' and probably is .

Rudi44 · 27/07/2017 20:17

And these are the schools that this F-ing government are diverting funding to. This highlights everything wrong with free schools

BlanketyBlankAgain · 27/07/2017 20:18

Route 39 is not a PRU or similar! It was set up by parents who thought that the local comprehensive schools (in Holsworthy, Barnstaple, Bideford, Okehampton ) were far too big and scary.... There has been long-running opposition in the area - partly because of the amount of funding it received for a very small number of students when the existing schools are really struggling financially and partly because planning permission was granted in countryside for a site for it (the government overruled the local planning officers' initial refusal).

Sitting GCSEs late disadvantages students at post-16 - they can only have 3 years of funding at 16-18 so if these ex-route 39 students (who will start FE at 17 rather than 16) choose the wrong course or are ill or anything else that means that they would want to start Year 12 again - then they probably won't be able to....

titchy · 27/07/2017 20:20

They have a school day from 8.30 till 5.00 and a PAN of 100. All that time, and all those kids, if they ever fill each year group. Shocking Shock

BertrandRussell · 27/07/2017 20:26

Blimey. I've read some scathing OFSTEDs in my time but blimey!!!!!!

BertrandRussell · 27/07/2017 20:27

Nobody would choose this free school, if they really thought their child was Oxbridge bound"

Well, they might well if they read the prospectus!