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GCSE Fine Art materials? Which ones are good?

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FiveHoursSleep · 10/07/2017 17:19

DD2 is doing Edexcel Fine Art as a GCSE option next year and I'm wanting to make a start on buying her some bits and pieces so she can do some work over the holidays. ( They already have homework!)
Can anyone recommend some brands of
'A decent set of blendable colouring pencils, a set of watercolours, a small training set of oils/acrylic paints, a set of fine brushes suitable for acrylics, a set of drawing pencils, two fine line drawing pens in black ink and a high quality sketch book with thick cartridge paper'
I know nothing about this kind of thing!

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BigSandyBalls2015 · 10/07/2017 17:21

Good luck with that it could be a painful couple of years!!

Unescorted · 10/07/2017 17:27

It is a piece of string type of question. You can get student sets at the cheaper end right through to artist quality where a single coloured pencil costs a couple of quid and a tube of paint sets you back a fiver. If she is looking to do Fine Art to a high level then get the best you can afford. It is an investment and makes a difference to the finish quality of her work.

Unescorted · 10/07/2017 17:29

Forgot to say it is a really personal choice - take her to an Art shop to have a play before you decide.

Plumpcious · 10/07/2017 17:39

Oooh, a shopping-for-art-materials thread - lovely!

Whereabouts do you live, ie nearest big city to see if we can find you a decent art supplies shop. Or will you be buying it all online?

One thing I'll say straightaway: don't get oil paints yet. They need specialist fluid for cleaning the brushes (plus the paint takes ages to dry) so aren't really suitable for playing with at home until you know what you're doing. Acrylic would be better.

FiveHoursSleep · 10/07/2017 17:47

We are in Greater London but I'd prefer to buy online as I hate shopping!
I don't want to get cheap and nasty but we can't afford the most expensive stuff.
If anyone can tell what sort of stuff is suitable to do the job and give me some links, I'm happy to trawl for a good price.
Even some brand names to look out for/ avoid would be helpful.
I know it's going to be painful but DD2 really wants to do the subject and I already have my Y10 daughter telling me what a mistake we've made letting her younger sister do art so I'm trying to remain positive as long as possible.

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TheSecondOfHerName · 10/07/2017 18:04

DD (year below but hoping to choose Art Graphics next year) recommends these:

Acrylic paints: Daler Rowney Simply Acrylics set

Colouring pencils: Crawford & Black or WH Smith

She only has a cheap, basic set of water colours, and doesn't have oil paints or charcoal yet.

TheSecondOfHerName · 10/07/2017 18:07

Her paint brushes were a gift from a friend, so I don't know where they came from, but they say 'Reeves' on them. She is happy with them.

Plumpcious · 10/07/2017 18:30

The following are good reference sources and all have a presence in London in you want to collect rather than mail order:

www.jacksonsart.com/
www.londongraphics.co.uk/
www.cassart.co.uk/
www.cowlingandwilcox.com/

Definitely shop around for best prices as some shops always have things on offer (eg Cass and Cowling & Wilcox).

An easy one: "two fine line drawing pens in black ink"

I like Staedtler pigment liners. They come in different nib widths and are waterproof.

"high quality sketch book with thick cartridge paper"

I would look for Seawhite books. They're good quality but not expensive and are used in schools and colleges. They come in different sizes and bindings. For trying out at home, I would suggest getting a few of the softcover, stapled books (available in A5, A4 and A3) rather than a single thick sketchbook. She can try a different medium in each book. Once she starts the course they may suggest a hardback sketchbook (either casebound or spiralbound).

I'll answer more in dribs and drabs.

TheSecondOfHerName · 10/07/2017 18:41

Please make sure she writes her name in the sketchbook. I work in a secondary school where part of my role is sorting lost property. We have had full / nearly full GCSE & A-level sketchbooks handed in with no name in them.

If she travels to school by public transport, consider including your contact number or email address, in case she loses it on the train or bus.

FiveHoursSleep · 10/07/2017 18:44

Thanks Second. Will investigate.

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Plumpcious · 10/07/2017 18:53

"a set of drawing pencils"

You can get sets but you can also buy them individually. Any brand that does different levels of hardness will do (H stands for Hard and B for black - the higher the number the 'more' the pencil is, eg 4H is very hard and will produce a thin line, 4B is very soft and will give a thick dark line but will smudge a lot). Eg Staedtler set or Staedtler individually. Not sure it's worth getting a full set of consecutive numbers as there's little incremental difference. 2B seems the most common in art classrooms, so maybe 2B, 4B, 6B (but bear in mind the smudging) and a couple of hard ones.

And this Staedtler eraser

Plumpcious · 10/07/2017 19:13

"watercolours"

I've never used these myself but this set is aimed at kids (although the blurb says minimum age of 14!): Reeves watercolours. If she's never used watercolours before I think they'd be fine to play with.

A grown-up version would be this: Cotman watercolours but there's less paint and it's fiddly to use if you're trying to paint a large area.

Does she already have experience of colour mixing? Long-term the Reeves set would be limited as there aren't extra colours available, whereas something like the Cotman is expandable if she gets into watercolour more and wants to extend her colour range.

I may well be over-projecting on the quality side though - my school art classes were dire and everything I know now is based on adult art classes, which had a more 'professional' approach to materials.

Plumpcious · 10/07/2017 19:35

"A decent set of blendable colouring pencils"

There are quite a few brands of colouring pencils, and some have more than one range (eg artist quality, student quality). Then there are different ranges: blendable, water-soluble, Inktense...

Coloured pencils are available in sets (usually 12, 24, 36, 48+). I'd go for a maximum of 24, something like this Derwent Academy set. DEFINITELY shop around for price as there are always offers on and you'd be mad to pay full price.

And be careful which range you go for, eg compare that Derwent Academy set above (£10.90) with this Derwent Studio set (£31.99).

I'd aim to pay no more than £15 for a set of 24. Whatever the brand, as long as they say 'blendable' they'll be fine.

Personally I prefer water-soluble (such as these). You can use them dry like normal pencils but if you wet them with a brush they will blend together. Again, that's good if she knows about colour mixing as it can extend her colour range.

It's useful to know that colour pencils can be bought individually (eg at the London Graphic Centre) so if she finds she needs a particular shade (eg a decent green for foliage) then she can go along and try out the colours of different brands (no need to stick with the same brand). Best to have a particular colour in mind though, otherwise it's like being let loose in a sweetshop and picking up lots of pretty colours that catch your eye!

FiveHoursSleep · 10/07/2017 21:01

That is all so helpful. Thank you!

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Winterscomin · 10/07/2017 21:55

I work with graphics and my Dd is taking art too.
Its very much personal preference but you cant go wrong with Derwent pencil sets which include graphite. Copic are great fine liners. We use Rotaring pens at work but they arent cheap and Tbh copic at GCSE will give a good enough look.
Make sure you buy decent watercolour sketch pads or paper (Daler Rowney v good for sketch pads )then you can use cheaper water colour paints but if the paper is poor quality the result will be poor.
Brushes you can pay a fortune for but you may find a cheaper brush you are more comfortable with so dont think at this level the more you pay the better the result. Dont forget a decent mixing palette with more than 6 holes would be a good investment. Amazon have them for about £6.
I would also suggest buying an A2 sized art folder with plastic inserts.

Plumpcious · 12/07/2017 14:37

I happened to be passing a branch of Cowling & Wilcox this morning so just had to pop in to do a bit of investigating...

"a small training set of oils/acrylic paints"

As I said earlier, don't get oils, they're not really suitable for playing with unless you've been taught how to use them (not water soluble so you need specialist fluid for cleaning the brushes; take ages (days!) to dry; can't be painted straight onto paper because of the oil content so you need to prime the paper with, eg, an acrylic paint first).

So, get acrylics. You can get sets of 10 or 12 tubes. I particularly like the look of this Winsor & Newton Galeria set because it includes 2 shades of each of the primary colours (red, yellow and blue). I was taught colour mixing with just those 6 shades plus white - it's amazing the range of colours you can mix from them, even black.

There's also this set of Daler Rowney but that only has 1 blue.

Brushes: start with a set of synthetic brushes such as this Da Vinci set or this ProArte set. Later she can buy individual brushes in different sizes if she needs to expand her range.

Plumpcious · 12/07/2017 19:17

Lastly, another plug for water-soluble coloured pencils. They're good for carrying on trips so when your DD is visiting galleries etc she can use them in the gallery (they don't allow wet or messy media in galleries) and later use a wet brush over the colours to get a painterly effect.

She can get a waterbrush which she can fill with water in the barrel, to carry around with her. The medium or broad one will be sufficient, she won't need one of each.

FiveHoursSleep · 15/07/2017 08:21

Thanks for the tips about brushes and water soluble pencils.

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ButtonLoon · 15/07/2017 14:06

Make sure (with the acrylics) that she knows to wash her brushes (and palette if using a permanent palette rather than the tear-off-paper sort) STRAIGHT AWAY as the paint is impossible to remove once dry and will ruin brushes.

MizzT · 26/11/2024 18:17

Ok, for anyone reading this years later:

Don't sweat it guys. We are talking about freaking kids here - some will be learning to use the materials for the first time and find that they are just not their bag. Use The Works. It's cheap. You can buy mostly everything you need online. Free delivery. Crawford & Black and Reeves brands are good enough. They are student quality. And your kids are.... students! If you wanna splash out, there are higher pigment standard Liquitex paints which are getting on for pro quality that The Works sells as well. WHSmith is overpriced, lots of 'real' artists don't end up in the art shops either... that's more for the Sunday Painters. Mainly because the materials are so costly and you can source the larger quantities often needed elsewhere if that is your livelihood.

I'll let you in on a little secret. If you want to do a Fine Art degree, it won't be prescribed like GCSE's are. No one tells you what materials you should use and you don't have the pressure of drawing realist work that you take home and satisfy parents, family & family friends with (unless realist work is what your child wants to do).

Like most students, when I was navigating my degree, I was strapped for cash - and . So, it was Crawford & Black paints for some projects. I even experimented with using children's arts materials (it was relevant to what I was doing at the time). By the time I got on for my final assessment, I needed to use paint in huge quantities, I using tubs of decorating, floor and enamel paints.

I got a First Class Degree in Fine Art.

Oh, and a little tip on the brushes: the bristle ones in The Works are crap. Maybe head to The Range for those, they have actual artists ones. I really like the soft/smooth white plastic bristle ones at The Works, the brown fake sable ones are tolerable. Even though the white bristle ones are at the lower end of budget brushes, I like the feel of them across all paint mediums (esp acrylic) for the style I want to use, and you cry less if you wreck the head by letting paint dry on it, etc (it's easily done). Sable brushes are beautiful to use, you can buy them in different levels of quality - again try The Range. Quality brushes you select individually are expensive - even getting a selection of lower budget ones aren't cheap. Make are they are thoroughly cleaned because if you have any of these and you lose them to dried paint. Easily done.

Good luck... and if the art teacher complains remind them that you are more likely to find artists shopping in their local DIY warehouse for materials, locally it's been gardening spaces, knitting and even work involving a barge recently. That's what the Arts Council is funding, anyway.

Hope that helps... I get kinda ranty when I see long lists of materials, hours of homework, etc. It puts unnecessary pressure on kids & parents.

FrankieStein403 · 28/11/2024 13:14

Re hours of homework/fine art being hard work etc - consider that eg in English lit you have to do oodles of reading/memory work but don't really treat that as homework - just the essays. Virtually everything you do in art is the stuff you enjoy (possibly not the annotation)

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