My DD told off and given a warning for yawning in her geography lesson today ?

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Not sure what to think of this School has like a behaviour system where you get so many warnings for things and if you get so many you get detention and other sanctions . Now my DD has received 1 against her for yawning I didn't know what to make of this ?

Loud yawning, sighing, eye rolling and generally being 'dramatically bored' is rude. Could be that? One of those situations where context matters.

I think you need a bit more of the story. Why was she yawning? What was her reaction to being asked about yawning? Was she rude to the teacher? Was she messing about prior to the yawning? There's always more to it than our darlings tell us

Did she yawn naturally or was it a loud sarcastic yawn?

Either your dd is at the same school as my dd or this is now a 'thing' as a girl in dds class got detention for yawning yesterday. She hasn't been sleeping very well due to the heat and she was struggling in class. She yawned and got a detention because the teacher was 'sick and tired' of kids not being properly prepared for lessons.

I dont know what you can do about it though.

I remember this happening to a girl in my class when I was at school years ago. Apparently some teachers believe yawning is disrespectful... as if people are capable of choosing when to yawn

No idea she says she just yawned as she like this other girl hasn't slept well and was tired . Obviously she wasn't given detention but got the warning and the teacher involved she seemed fit to give my daughter a behaviour sanction so 2 more detention I think . School in question is in Berkshire that's all I will say

Bit rude to yawn in such a way that the teacher noticed. Tell your DD to do it discreetly in future.

We're in Staffordshire so its obviously something that teachers just find annoying. I can imagine sarcastic yawning can be rude and discipline could be appropriate in that instance, if its instinctive then its a bit harsh.

I'm a teacher & I've been yawning all day, as have my students (Ramadan, hot country, we're all shattered).

Hand up in front of mouth, polite tired yawn, fine.

Ostentatious 'God I'm so bored' yawn - nope, that's a warning.

Same with deliberately playing to the gallery belching, farting, & chair tipping. It's annoying & distracting.

I was doing behaviour walk & removed a kid from a revision session last week who'd 'only yawned miss! I don't even know why Sir called you!'

Well, because actually you'd been twice spoken to about distracting the rest of the class with your fidgeting, before the cavernous & noisy yawn with pointed eye contact with all your mates to make them laugh, made Sir decide he'd had enough.

So no, I think a bit much to sanction an involuntary yawn (I'm yawning my head off typing this - suggestion! ), but there is a definite taking the piss yawn which any teacher sees all too often.

Possibly your tired dd did that sort? I've known my ds (I teach in his school) to be capable of similar when being a smart arse. Part of the teenage condition.

I told a child off for yawning in my lesson today (not in Berkshire or Staffordshire). I just said something along the lines of 'hope I'm not boring you too much'. She got the hint.

Wow telling kids off for yawning sounds a bit harsh. I am an adult and I'm exhausted in this heat. Most people I know are sleeping badly at the moment. I think like others have said, if it's a simple yawn (no I'm bored Am Dram) then it's pretty crappy to pull the kid up on it or tell them off. Teachers have no idea what stuff is going on with kids at home, I know someone who has been a carer for her mum since she was a teen and got home from school to do the housework often not going to bed until late.

More likely it was a loud yawn than a hand over mouth silent one.

Oh please. How ridiculous!! I'm yawning all over the shop this morning, am melting.

Did she put her hand over her mouth? If not, then it's bad manners.

Get a grip op and stop being a helicopter parent. You don't have to 'make' anything of it. She yawned, rightly or wrongly and was told off for it. So what. Let the school get on with it. What are you proposing? Marching into school and giving the teacher a ticking off?

You can yawn with your mouth (more or less) closed. Get her to practice it.

If you are that concerned, I'd reserve judgement until you've spoke to the teacher.. random mumsnetters are not going to have any more information than you!

Context needed before deciding.

Quiet hand over mouth polite yawn, I'd probably not notice.
If it was a bigger yawn (we all have them) but they were clearly being polite, mouth covered, paying attention to me etc I'd probably make a joke with student about me being boring or them needing an early night.

If it's the kind for gawping yawn when they should be paying attention then it's an issue, ditto point proving sarcastic yawns, playing to the crowd yawns etc. The students rely on "but miss/sir I was ONLY yawning!" And they know fine well what they were doing but they go home and you get phone calls saying "my child JUST..." And oddly enough there's a link between students who say "I was ONLY..." And parents who call up saying "my child JUST..."

Maisy- very eloquent

Also 'I completely support the school' (apart from when it involves any discipline being applied to my child)

Yesterday there was a fight between two girls, 20 minutes before school on the housing estate next to school. another student split them up. A parent on the scene stopped the teacher running to deal with it from the school, shouting how crap we are and why hadn't we stopped it. Then phoned to complain about how we let it happen and why weren't we there. So an adult had let a child deal with it, stopped the teacher and was then 'furious' it had happened, whilst sitting in the car yelling abuse at the teacher.... he wanted an apology

universally Thank you.

That situation sounds ridiculous.

This is similar - Child A posts on social media content that causes a big conflict. Child A reports child B to school for being mean because people are talking about what happened at the weekend. Child A's parents want to know what I am doing about their child being victimised by Child B.
Speak to Child B, child B shows the chat logs and it's all child A & friends harassing people. The situation spread like wildfire (obviously). But according to child A's parents the whole year group are targeting their child and their child has done nothing wrong.

I hate social media sometimes. And also hate how many people seem to think it's our job to police social.media when the children are at home!

She Has told me she yawned as she was tired I did tell her she should have covered her mouth as she was near her teacher . She likes geography as well she hasn't been sleeping well the last 2 nights so she went to bed early tonight she apologised to the teacher and can see her point of view but I don't agree with trying to punnish inoccent students for tiredness but there we go .

Then it sounds like a simple mistake.

She yawned. Had she been polite and covered her mouth the teacher would probably let it go. She didn't so was pulled up on it.
I think if it similar to coughs. People get coughs and colds. There are poorly students who cough as unobtrusively as possible and there are some who start a coughing party bouncing it around the room. The former wouldn't be told off, the second lot would.

She's apologised to the teacher. I always say to my form, if you get a negative report once for something small it's a one off. If they are repeated then we have a problem. A one off for a good kid wouldn't be an issue.