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Rant about the new maths GCSEs. Michael Gove you tosser.

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noblegiraffe · 14/06/2017 00:06

I've got to write this because I've been fuming all day and I need to get it out or I'll never sleep.

So today was the final maths paper, the first round of teaching of the new GCSEs complete. What a total and utter nightmare the whole thing has turned out to be. The poor kids today looked like wrecks. Over 20 different exams spread over weeks has really taken its toll, thanks to all subjects being made linear. We had a revision class yesterday and they had nothing left to give, it was a really horrible ending to the course, trying to cajole them into squeezing in some last minute revision. Three papers for maths has meant it has been a real trial to keep the momentum going (not to mention the added expense of all the extra photocopying of 3 papers instead of 2). Next year it will be even worse as at least this year they still have the cushion of coursework in some subjects.

Due to the last minute scrapping of SAMs which meant the textbooks were out of date and useless even before they left the warehouse and school funding cuts which meant we couldn't afford to buy them even when updated, teachers have been scrabbling over the internet for resources to teach the new topics on the syllabus. The syllabus is unclear and teachers have been trying to find out what they actually have to teach from looking at the sample papers put out by the exam boards. Workload has been horrendous. One question on Edexcel Foundation caught lots by surprise because that style of question wasn't on any papers, and being an old A* topic, many schools hadn't taught it.

Some of the syllabus is just stupid. Memorising exact trig values on foundation? Really?

Before the most recent higher and foundation papers we had foundation (up to a D) intermediate (up to a B) and higher (up to an A) which were then replaced with foundation (up to a C) and higher (up to an A). Essentially what has happened is that we've gone back to the old system with an intermediate and higher paper, but got rid of foundation and are making all the weaker kids sit intermediate. There is nothing for them on the papers. Kids who would have got a G or F grade are having to sit 4.5 hours of papers where they can answer maybe 2-3 questions on each. What does that say to them? The first question on the first maths paper that they sat was (non calc) 2^4. The third was solve x/5 = 2 1/2. Those poor kids.

And the papers themselves? Awful. It used to be 'the examiners are looking to reward what you know, not trying to catch you out'. Well that seems to have passed Edexcel by. Questions which could have been fine had twists put into them for no reason other than to increase the chance of failure. Foundation kids for the first time have to solve simultaneous equations. But why put a question on which is going to trip them up and confuse them? Lots of fuss about trig being on Foundation so we dutifully taught it and spent lots of time on it because it's hard. It was on every sample paper they produced. It wasn't on the sodding real thing. What a waste of time.

My foundation class would have comfortably got Cs and be able to answer the majority of a paper without breaking a sweat. Now it's all very, very difficult and they hate it. We've had higher tier students lose all confidence, bomb out of the higher paper and be moved to foundation, capping their potential grade. Other higher students have decided that maths isn't for them and wont be taking A-level.

All this has served to do is to put kids off maths and make them think they can't do it.

And it's all very well saying 'the grade boundaries will be low, it will be fine, the same proportion will get a C as last year' etc etc. As a maths teacher who is interested in the maths education of the population, this is simply not good enough. You can't make kids better at maths by battering them over the head with stuff they can't do.

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Somerville · 14/06/2017 00:21

On a human level, what a shame for the pupils involved and their teachers - and shame on bloody Gove.
As a parent to a current year 10, I'm quivering.

Blueemeraldagain · 14/06/2017 00:26

I was a reader and scribe for one of our year 11s for each of his maths exams. Today's paper was so strange. It lurched from difficult to manageable in a really strange way.

What was the old A* question on today's exam? The one with the 12 sided polygon and the hexagon?

hesterton · 14/06/2017 00:28

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Winewinewinewine · 14/06/2017 00:29

I agree. Gove is a twat. I teach primary and have spent today proving that 7 yr olds can use exclamatory sentences and apostrophes. Don't worry about battering the love of learning out of them. That'll be happening way before they get to Secondary school.... I also have a yr 10 child gearimg up for GCSEs next year. We're scared....

rosesandcashmere · 14/06/2017 00:39

The x/5 question is, in my opinion foundation maths. There should be other pathways for less academic children. I say that with a heavy heart as one of mine won't get a C but not everyone can. There needs to be alternative options. Making the papers easier doesn't help anyone.

HarrietSchulenberg · 14/06/2017 00:47

I read and scribed for a Higher Maths paper last week. In previous years I've worked out answers in my head as we go and mentally cope with most of them without the luxury of pen and paper. I've always been able to do all of a Foundation paper. This year I struggled to do more than a few and was mightily glad that I wasn't doing it for real. The person I was reading and scribing for really struggled and had to guess some answers.

I got an A in the ancient O Level Maths, FFS.

noblegiraffe · 14/06/2017 00:58

The x/5 question is, in my opinion foundation maths.

Sure, but not on the first page. The two and a half confused them, and those that could solve the equation struggled with multiplying by 2.5. It's all well saying that the less academic kids need other pathways but at the moment this paper is supposed to cater for them too. What's the grade boundary for a 1 going to be? 15 across 3 papers? Where's their chance to demonstrate what they know and can do? It's just not fair on them.

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rosesandcashmere · 14/06/2017 01:06

I don't have an answer, I'm sorry.

gluteustothemaximus · 14/06/2017 01:17

Yes it's shit.

My friend's DD just doing her GCSE's, and maths she found ridiculously hard.

My DS used to love school. Maths was his favourite subject, not anymore. He hates it. Can't do it. Too hard, and just going into year 10 so he is dreading GCSE's.

It shouldn't be like this!!

I hate Gove. But then I hate the Tory government anyway.

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TheDrsDocMartens · 14/06/2017 06:03

I have been invigilating and it's awful watching them struggle. I think the English Language changes aren't as drastic but the 19th century piece is challenging for a lot of students.

TheDrsDocMartens · 14/06/2017 06:03

I've also got a year 10 Sad

PossumInAPearTree · 14/06/2017 06:16

Dd has done foundation edexcel this year.

She reckons it was easy and finished yesterday's paper with an hour to spare! Hmm

PossumInAPearTree · 14/06/2017 06:18

The Hmm face is my face at Dd btw when she told me how easy it was! Outwardly I'm telling her that's great, inwardly I'm like "crap, have you fucked up".

RedHelenB · 14/06/2017 06:23

Isn't the exam only just over an hour? Hopefully it was easy and she exaggerated the over an hour somewhat!

mnistooaddictive · 14/06/2017 06:34

I agree noble. The questions were just so hard. My Y11 class just gave up in January in a way they would never have done with the old GCSE. I looked at so many questions that would stretch me because of their style and that's with 15 years of teaching. I can teach Alevel but these higher questions just required so many steps and so much knowledge.

KeiraTwiceKnightley · 14/06/2017 06:44

No tiers in English now, thanks to Gove. One of our low ability kids put his hand up to ask if one of the texts was about ghosts - the question asked about people's attitude to their possessions. He just couldn't access it at all.

StuckInnaVanTrump · 14/06/2017 06:46

Why is Gove doing this? What is the purpose? To get more students to fail?

DoctorDonnaNoble · 14/06/2017 06:51

As @noblegiraffe and others know I teach in a boys' grammar. Maths is our 'thing'. Some of our absolutely fantastic students were in bits before Maths (in a way they weren't for English). I had to remind them that 'rubbish' at Maths in our place wasn't really rubbish. Maths usually get single figures A and the rest A*. I have never seen the excellent department look so stressed.

HibiscusIsland · 14/06/2017 06:58
Sad Keira, did he confuse possessions with phantoms?
KeiraTwiceKnightley · 14/06/2017 07:06

Yes - he thought it was about being possessed.

KeiraTwiceKnightley · 14/06/2017 07:08

Also, as the new exams have to stretch the brightest, it means the weakest have to sit through 2 hour (or longer) papers while unable to read much of them. Additionally, lots have extra time for particular need so might be in an exam for 2 and 3/4 hours. Lots are having a sleep...

MairzyDoats · 14/06/2017 07:15

This is awful. My Y9 hates maths already, we are going to have complete meltdowns. Do you think terrible exam results across the board will open the examiners' eyes?

NewDayDawning · 14/06/2017 07:25

My Y11 has found them hard, but finished in good time, he felt paper 3 was quite 'forgiving' (his words)

He has worked so hard, but is completely shattered (emotionally and physically drained) we still have 6 more papers including further maths, chemistry, physics...I don't know how to keep him going.

We are all hoping the grade boundaries are lower on maths Edexcel (wishful thinking?)

BonnesVacances · 14/06/2017 07:26

DD is in Y10 and all her GCSES next year will be linear. But she hasn't been in school or studied anything since Y9 due to illness so the move to linear exams has worked out well for us in this instance as it means she hasn't missed any controlled assessments or coursework.

Maths is the most worrying GCSE for us though. I can't see how she will even begin to think about sitting it. Even though she was top set before she became ill, there's no way she would be able to cram before it as there's so much content.

Interestingly DH said that she's still better off taking the higher paper as apparently they have to work harder on the foundation to get a 4. Would you not agree with that if some of your students have moved from the higher to the foundation?

YellowPrimula · 14/06/2017 07:27

Not taking away from the fact that it was hard or the ridiculousness of having on exam for all but why is it that children in most other countries in the world can do this level of maths and ours can't. is it teaching, is it a societal attitude to maths .Before we can remedy this we need to try to establish the reason.

I write as a mother of a dyscalculic who at 20 is still trying to pass functional maths ( don't get me started on that ridiculous syllabus) , a ds who managed an A in the old GCSE whilst still be unable to do percentages or mental maths but learned method by rote and had fab exam technique and Maths loving yr 10 who did the exam on 26 May as his year group exam and got 83% but also found it harder than he was expecting.

How can one exam accommodate all these levels of ability.