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Yr 11 support thread - the scaffolding is holding up well

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pointythings · 22/05/2017 17:00

Because we need a new thread now that things are really hotting up!

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BertrandRussell · 25/05/2017 11:15

"Last 3 questions very very difficult. Still lots of people crying"

Laniakea · 25/05/2017 11:18

it is made so much worse by having no clue where the grade boundaries will lie Angry

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readyforsunshine · 25/05/2017 11:28

Edexel higher here, Ds found it really hard, as did all his friends. He was actually pleased that I'd warned him to expect it to be tough (thanks noble!) as he said it was quite intimidating/demoralising. He has said he's going to have to really work hard for the calc paper to make up, so it has obviously shaken him.
So sorry for those crying, it really is too much poor kidsSad
Thanks t875 & ifonly Smile

cantkeepawayforever · 25/05/2017 11:35

Just coming back and thinking about DS's remark.

After the mock, which floored several of them because they are top set students used to finding the majority of each paper relatively easy (and the school then used very high grade boundaries, so the grade interpretations were possibly on the low side), the school has plied them with 'extremely hard' mock-type papers, just to get them used to really struggling.

So DS and all his set have gone into today's exam expecting it to be really, really hard and with strategies to cope with that. So DS's calibration of 'OK' will be 'no worse than the practice papers', which means '* impossible, especially the last couple of questions.

It's been a hard few months, but at least I feel that DS's work ethic and attitude has had a good workout! Now he's reversed his decision about taking maths into the sixth form, i feel, regardless of how he does in the end, it won't have been a wholly bad experience - perhaps cushioning the jump to A level, tbh.

However, if this is top set in a good comp, i am sending masses of thoughts to those for whom maths is anyway much more difficult. i hope the foundation papers were OK.

Fleurdelise · 25/05/2017 11:37

ready exactly the same feedback here, DS said he needs to work a lot over half term for the other two exams so obviously he feels it went really bad. Sad

Cafeconleche · 25/05/2017 11:39

noble can you explain how a 4-5 grade on Foundation correlates to a 4-5 on Higher? Do the grades boundaries cross at some point (ie % of students who got a C last year)? V confused with some students finding the Higher 'really hard' but Foundation 'pretty good'. I appreciate nobody knows what the boundaries are yet but I guess what I'm asking is if it's possible for one student to do badly in Higher and another to do well in Foundation and both come out with the same grade

Laniakea · 25/05/2017 11:46

Cafe in previous years in order to get a C they've needed to get around about 70/75% on the foundation paper compared to 40% on the higher paper which accounts for how hard the papers are.

pasanda · 25/05/2017 11:57

DS found it really, really hard. Lots of things he hadn't revised for came up Sad

He didn't even manage to get 'to the staples' apparently so nowhere near did he complete the whole paper. He's really upbeat though (he would never in a million years cry about it) and is just cracking on with English. Which is good. But I can't help feel a bit worried about it.

Nothing we can do now though so onwards and upwards

pasanda · 25/05/2017 11:59

Lots were crying at his school too which is just shit for them. I feel so sorry for those who struggle with maths - to be faced with a paper that might totally demoralise them. My dd will be exactly like this. Her year 8 teacher reckons she might get a 1/2. She really, really cannot do maths and I am dreading it for her.

unfortunateevents · 25/05/2017 11:59

Radio silence from DS which is not good. Maths his worst subject so a difficult paper will have completely thrown him - on top of his cold. Study leave starts today so not a good last day of school :-(

pasanda · 25/05/2017 12:02

Reading the above comments back, now really worried that DS didn't even get to the staples when most dc are only talking about not doing the last 2/3 questions. Bloody hell....Sad

Dancergirl · 25/05/2017 12:02

Edexcel iGCSE Maths here, my dd found it really hard. Let's hope for low grade boundaries.

Cafeconleche · 25/05/2017 12:03

Many thanks Laniakea - DS needs a 5 to get into 6th form and was entered into Foundation at very last minute as was considered borderline - grades going up and down with each mock. Can't do anything about it now and still no idea which would have been the better exam to sit so had to take the school's advice. Worried he will need 80%+ to achieve a 5 in Foundation.

BertrandRussell · 25/05/2017 12:04

My favourite tweet - "If john has counters and Dave had 7, how many cupcakes can Jane make from 3kg of granite with a density of 5...
#aqamaths"

Laniakea · 25/05/2017 12:11

dd says she looked at a few of the questions, thought naaah mate & moved on (the tangent question?). She had a go at the last one but missed out 16 marks worth completely.

Rockefeller234 · 25/05/2017 12:15

Flowers to all those who found it a struggle today.

DS - 'It was okay', but think i lost a few marks in the last question, although i showed all the workings'.

CrazedZombie · 25/05/2017 12:38

Ds said it was hard. It's frustrating not knowing what percentage you need for each grade.

I found the solution to the last question on the Edexcel paper on Twitter. Not sure if allowed to post so won't link. It's a cosine rule question.

Merrylegs · 25/05/2017 12:43

Yup, same Dancergirl - Edexcel igcse, Dd said was 'really difficult' (as did most of her classmates). But the student room seemed to love it (and there is an unofficial mark scheme up there already. Maybe best not to look...!)

Gnome134 · 25/05/2017 12:49

DS report of Edexcel higher maths paper was he did the first five questions ok. Did some of the rest. Thinks he definitely got about 20 marks, and hopefully some others too. Not great at all, but around the marks he got in mocks potentially. Apparently they all found it difficult. Fingers crossed for helpful grade boundaries.

simbobs · 25/05/2017 12:52

My ds needs a 7 to do Maths in 6th form and I will be furious with the school if they do not take a high 6 into consideration. They consider that anyone getting less could not cope with the A level syllabus. What do you wise ones think?

BertrandRussell · 25/05/2017 12:56

I think -even a high 6-is still a B Sad

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CrazedZombie · 25/05/2017 13:05

Our Sixth Form has the same requirement. People with a 6 will apparently be assessed after a couple of weeks and if they don't meet the standard then they'll be asked to change subject.
Ds can get A/A* on old spec papers so desperately hoping he scrapes a 7.

CrazedZombie · 25/05/2017 13:07

There seems to be a lot of memes on Twitter saying that the higher Edexcel paper started off as Foundation and ended up A-level difficulty. Ds agrees. He's playing a couple of hours of PS4 before cracking on with English Lit.