16 yr old bed time on a school night?

[Jungfraujoch]

What time do your DCs go?

I agree with Ben

DS is 16,gets up at 6.30. "Bedtime" is 9.30 , creeping towards 10, but that is by his choice - he needs his sleep,and gets twitchy if he thinks he is going to be up too late,bless him!
So I occasionally find myself faced with trying to persuade a 16 yr old that he will be ok if he stays up to finish watching the film we started ,especially as it's a Friday I've told him it's just not normal
DD on the other hand.........!

At 15, and certainly 16/17 I would have thought they go to bed whenever they feel like it as long as they are getting at least 8 hours.

My mum would have had a job on her hands removing my phone and making me go to bed at a certain time by that age!

By this age, I think the discussions about the importance of a good sleeping environment/enough hours should already have taken place a long time ago, so it's more about encouraging self-regulation and giving a gentle nudge if they seem to be slipping.

I can't exactly teach ds that there is some inherent virtue in going to bed early, as I do all of my best work in the evenings/late at night. A lifetime of working has taught me that anything I write before 11 o'clock is rarely worth preserving for posterity. Sometimes I have to start work early and I will adjust my bedtime accordingly.

What ds needs to understand is that it is about individual circumstances: at the moment he has an early commute, so late nights isn't a luxury he can afford. If he ends up in a flexible job, then he has to work out what is most suitable for him as an individual.

I think DC are different.DS1 is 16 ,always goes upstair around 9, fall sleep around 10, then gets up at 7:30. He rarely stay up later, unless there is a party or a movie he really wants to watch. I never need to remind him the bed time.
On the other hand, DS2 who is only 8, every night tries to stay a bit later, want to read for 5 more minutes. He goes to bed after DS1, luckily he only needs to get up at 8 in the morning.I can see he needs a bit more time to sleep, as I have to wake him up every morning, but it takes too much effort to get him to sleep earlier.

By this age, I think the discussions about the importance of a good sleeping environment/enough hours should already have taken place a long time ago

Just because the discussion has taken place it doesn't mean they take any notice ! I've been encouraging DS to pick up dirty clothes and put them in the laundry basket since he was 18 months old- he still has issues doing it

DS2 is almost 16 & in Year 11.

He has a weeknight rule of "in bed with lights off & everything else switched off" by 10.30pm.

Only rule is tv off and no phone/ipad/laptop in room after 11.30 pm which is roughly when I go to bed. I sometimes hear her faffing about after that. They need to start and make their own choices about such things at that age.