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UK comp tops the PISA charts

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Refluxsux · 16/12/2016 23:31

Not too shabby for a London Comp!

www.alexandrapark.school/news/aps-news/640-aps-students-triumph-in-pisa-tests

www.google.co.uk/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/38262047?client=safari

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MumTryingHerBest · 20/12/2016 17:26

GreenGinger2 It is in the context of a tested sample group that this school is considered to have done well. In order to dispute that on the basis of the school intake you would need to know the intake of all the other schools in the tested sample group. Do you?

GreenGinger2 · 20/12/2016 17:39

Do you?

www.oecd.org/pisa/pisaproducts/pisainfocus/48482894.pdf

Private schools and those with a similar social economic make up appear to do well.

Justchanged · 20/12/2016 17:43

Please read the teachers.org link where an academic study suggested it was neither due to immigrants or more money, but leadership. There is no need for fatalism.

MumTryingHerBest · 20/12/2016 17:48

GreenGinger2 What date was that document produced?

Private schools and those with a similar social economic make up appear to do well.

How many of the schools in the tested sample group had a comparible social econimic make up and how many of those comparible schools outperformed this state school?

GreenGinger2 · 20/12/2016 17:49

I can only see a long list of possible suggestions posted on the NUT website.

Justchanged · 20/12/2016 18:20

www.theguardian.com/education/2015/mar/22/is-londons-ethnic-diversity-driving-its-school-success-story

It's based on research. The article above is also interesting as it looks at the improvement of a London school where the demographics have been unchanged. If it's all about immigration, why aren't Bradford and Birmingham performing better?

Clearly there has been a culture change in London schools and they have become much more aspirational. There are probably a mixture of reasons behind the change, but given how dire a state London schools were in before, it seems unnecessarily pessimistic to suggest that they would have improved without all the government initiatives, and that there are no lessons for the rest of the country.

EmpressoftheMundane · 20/12/2016 19:59

Good link GreenGinger.

It pretty much confirms what gets said on mumsnet all the time.

TalkinPeace · 20/12/2016 20:13

Is it too much to be happy that a Comp did well ?

Merry Yule all

BoneyBackJefferson · 20/12/2016 23:25

TalkinPeace

I am very happy that a comp has done well, but I hate the misuse of statistics.

Ontopofthesunset · 20/12/2016 23:50

Yes, it's a great result and the school is clearly doing a fantastic job. But the BBC is running an article saying "Is this the best school in the world?" which is a trifle hyperbolic.

HPFA · 21/12/2016 07:06

Agree that the BBC headline is misleading. The comp is rightly proud of the achievements of its students - it didn't really need over egging.

Mind you even if the school had out-scored every school in the world people would still find a reason to knock it.

user1481838270 · 21/12/2016 12:04

The school is clearly doing a good job and should be congratulated.

However, the initial headlines about the achievement were completely misleadling and downright false and deserved to be called.

MrsFrisbyMouse · 21/12/2016 16:59

The BBC reporter probably has a child at the school. :)

Seriously though - it is an excellent school - good leadership and aspirational for all its children (FSM and Special Needs) - this is what makes it different from other schools in 'affluent' areas. But it does get a huge boost from the aspirational parents who move to the area just to get access to the school. So a bit chicken/egg really.

The Head has done amazing things - and is now part of consortium to try and help other schools (especially those on the other side of Haringey) learn from what they have achieved - this is where they can really start to make a difference for other disadvantaged kids - so the ripple effect goes far beyond these PISA scores.

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