Attendance Poster On Classroom Wall

[Verbena37]

Totally fuming!
DS (yr7) has just told me his form tutor has put a ladder of attendance poster up on the classroom wall with stickers showing every child's attendedence!!

Surely this is breaking the data protection act?
Why would the school think this was in any way acceptable?

The thing is some kids do take time off for a bit of a cold, because they haven't done HW, want to avoid a certain subject, are hungover, stayed up all night on the computer etc. That's not "good".
Going in whenever you can is "good".
Schools are judged on attendance.

You have implied that I am.

I did post it was school policy in my second post on the thread.

Me going to an SLT meeting is laughable. Along with SLT listening and changing their policy. They have to be seen to be doing something about attendance by ofsted.

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care about there pupils oh the irony

" You have implied that I am. "

I have not "implied" anything... I merely used the word 'inconsiderate'.

You were the one to use the term 'shit teacher' not me...

The phrase you used heavily implied that you thought I was inconsiderate and shouldn't have been drawn to teaching. Summing that up is "shit teacher".

Unless you have worked in a school and tried to tackle attendance, you really don't see how many pupils do take the mick with days off.

The real cases of poor attendance with genuine reasons are few and far between.

no PBerry I have not implied anything.
If you inferred from my use of the word 'inconsiderate' that I meant ' shit teacher' then I suggest that this is your problem, not mine.
I admire anyone who works in a school, I certainly couldn't it.

I don't agree with the highlighting of those with a good reason for absence as, they aren't the ones that need targeting but the doing so is just a symptom.

The cause is the government's pressure on schools regarding attendance, when schools are under pressure to improve attendance they have very limited ways to do that.

My poor dd has had some really nasty illnesses so far this term. Her attendance is at 91% . She is worried because of the bloody posters. I've told it doesn't matter on jot for her and that it's all the government anyway.
I hate rewarding kids for attendance. What happens to those poor buggers who get ill? They have done anything wrong yet they won't get rewarded will they?

positively shaming 😂😂😂😂😂

Perhaps positively shaming wasn't the best term to use but you know what I mean.....the school obviously thinks advertising stuff will motivate the kds.....and it doesn't.

Verbena I'm not sure if you are still considering working as a TA of cover supervisor, or heck, geography teacher but in August I followed your thread in "the staffroom" asking about whether you needed some in school experience. If you are, please do try and spend some time in schools. The more I read of your posts (Y10 music trip panic, Uniform cost, gel pen fiasco, y7 rugby) the more I realise that you don't understand that teachers aren't out personally to offend, injure, endanger or attack your children. Every single post you make about education/schools seems to attack the teachers in some way or another. Teachers are just doing their job, and most of them are doing it very well. Most of your issues should be raised with the SLT of your children's schools if you have concerns who will either allay your fears or more likely give you more amunition. Please, please stop posting on mumsnet posts which blame teachers. It doesn't solve your problems with the schools and feeds in to the negative culture of "faceless" teacher bashing that is causing so many professionals to leave their careers.

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Or b) fourcorneredcircle I'm not cross with the teachers, I'm cross with school policies.and those that write and manage them.

I have lovely friends and family members who are teachers and I totally understand the pressure they're under. However, my children spend over 6 hours a day at school and so of course, if an worrying or issue arises, I'm not going to sit back and say nothing thing.

The whole point of mumsnet is to chat and/or ask questions anonymously.....get ideas to help formulate opinions. In my previous posts (which you seem to have delved into quite a lot) are all separate incidents/questions. They aren't teacher bashing. Sometimes the system is at fault.....just like in a business where there is poor management.

Do you think schools fail or are in special measures because parents question policies and reasons as to why things are done? No, they fail because of poor management.

Why is it ok to complain about how nurseries treat young children in their settings yet not to question schools for older children?

Oh and I won't stop posting on mumsnet about educational things that worry me. If you've checked out my posts, you'll see that I post in the SEN boards about my HF ASD child.

Perhaps you could peruse the boards and pick out other posters you believe to be asking the wrong kind questions or venting their anger in the wrong way.

I'm not saying you don't post else where or that you shouldn't post. I'm just saying that often your posts become teacher bashing when in fact your issues are with policies or management and should be aimed at the school in question. It's not hard to remember your posts when I come across them as they are always so negative - be they in education or AIBU (I possibly remember your name in particular because my mum drinks Verbena tea which is quite unusual). I had no idea you had a son with ASD until you mentioned it as I didn't search, I just remember. If you have so many wonderful friends/family in education perhaps you should ask their opinion rather than the anonymous internet. Since they would understand why a particular issue might affect you more than a panel of strangers.

The entire tone of your OP was inflammatory. If you want to ask for help or advice might I suggest a more neutral mode of expression?

You have been told by a whole series of posters that this is normal (that doesn't mean you can't disagree with it, or request that your child is withdrawn from the process) and that attendance is not a data protection issue as children can see whether their class mates are absent or not. It has been explained to you repeatedly by people who actually work in schools that a large percentage of teenagers who are absent in fact have no real reason to be and that schools are sympathetic re: illness and medical conditions etc.

You have drawn a seperate issue in to bolster your ire (the fact that your DD does not like the way school celebrates achievement) again which should be dealt with by you contacting the school in question. Some children might not like it, and that's fine. Some others do and deserve to be recognised in a way that celebrates their successes.

Totally fuming!
DS (yr7) has just told me his form tutor has put a ladder of attendance poster up on the classroom wall with stickers showing every child's attendance!! Surely this is breaking the data protection act?
Why would the school think this was in any way acceptable?

How is this inflammatory? I say 'why would the school think....?'
I do bring up certain issues with school and then sometimes, having posted on mumsnet, I don't.
I think you'll find in all of my posts, there are others that agree and the same as I do.

I wonder if you comment to other posters who post about failing NHS services or poor restaurant service etc?

"Totally fuming, is this normal?" (Therefore allowing for correction if indeed yes, it is)
"Surely this is breaking the Data protection act" perhaps you could have tried "is this breaking the data protection act?"(I think this is one of the most misunderstood and maligned concepts ever, except perhaps political correctness)
Why would the school think this was acceptable - if you ask a question prepare to be answered... even if you still disagree, you asked it.

Erm, yes... if I found myself on a thread where say nurses or waiters were being attacked for decisions beyond their control, I'd speak up for them too.

I have also returned meals in restaurants to chefs and spoken to PALS when hospital care was less than satisfactory. Because ultimately, with the issues I was having they were in a much better position to fix it than the person carrying out their job to the best of their instruction.

Ok. I'll agree to disagree because it seems you have missed one of the main points f mumsnet.

I'll monitor my posts from now on and only post positive things about how lovely the weather is.

That's not what I've suggested.

My initial suggestion was that if you still want to work in schools you need to get in to them and see the reality of working there, what actually goes in to a school day and the fact that for the most part teachers are just doing their jobs to the best of their ability and following the instructions given to them by those higher up.

I still stand by that.

Fne.
I did actually volunteer in a primary school for two years so know how primary settings work day to day.
My wanting to work in a school didn't have anything to do with this post though. If I did go into working in a school now, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be a state school but a SEN school or independent school.

Primary and secondary are worlds apart, and what a parent experiences as a volunteer reader/library helped/music helper etc. is very different to the actual realities of working in a school.

Please don't kid yourself that working in a SEN school or independent is any freer of the frustrations that day to day bring. Or that they are some lovely world without the confines of prescribed actions for teachers.

You need some proper experience shadowing teachers for a couple of weeks. Attending their training, meetings etc. And sitting in a classroom seeing the hundreds of decisions they make for every 30 minutes of teaching.

I'm secondary so wouldn't have a poster. But I'll 2nd what some other posters say.

Few year back there was a student who said it was unfair that others in the class were commenting that he's off lots. It's not unfair when he delighted in bragging about being off.
I've had children with medical issues and they were always discounted from whole group competitions (so not to pull the group down) and peers were very understanding.
Kids notice who's in/not in. I don't think the poster makes much difference (even if it's not something I would personally want to do).

DS is secondary....he took a photo of it on the display board today to show me. It's more of a laminated thing than a poster.....I just meant it's displayed on the wall.

he took a photo of it on the display board today to show me

What's he doing using his phone in school?

I thought the suggestion that a classroom teacher could toddle along to an SLT meeting and tell them that their policy was rubbish was quite funny.