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Homework at secondary school

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carefreeeee · 22/07/2016 12:13

I recently did some teaching at a secondary school where there was no homework being set in most subjects. If there was it was never collected or marked.

I was teaching pupils of age 15 who were supposed to be amongst the highest achieving in the year group. They certainly seemed very bright and keen, but the standard of written work was appalling, bad punctuation, bad grammar, and illegible handwriting. Plus when asked to do some work at home, pupils seemed to have a complete mental block, even when repeatedly asked to do simple tasks they either failed to produce anything or did it incredibly badly. These are students who participate really well in class and seem very keen! I really did think they had been badly let down by the school to be so incapable - they will really struggle to do further/higher education.

I know too much homework can be counterproductive, but for this age group, not to get them in the habit of doing something at home and especially to get their writing up to standard, seems like negligence. Can anyone who is involved in teaching secondary comment as to whether this is normal?

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MooPointCowsOpinion · 08/08/2016 18:16

I'm a teacher and I bloody hate setting homework. I teach them the skill, we practise the skill, they have homework on the skill, they don't do the homework, lie to parents and say they don't know the skill, parents email me to say 'how dare you set homework on something little tarquin doesn't know', tarquin gets a detention, tarquin doesn't turn up, I refer to behaviour unit, tarquin scowls at me and throws pens around my room for the next 4 weeks.

It takes on average two weeks to chase up all the late homeworks and set detentions and then I'm marking the same ting over and over again as the pieces drip feed in.

It's thankless. Depressing. Ugh, it's nearly September.

TeenAndTween · 08/08/2016 18:30

moo But what about the kids who do the homework and benefit by the extra practice, or by having a parent go through the technique with them again?

My DD generally did better in subjects with homework, because it re-enforced skills more.

Would it work better to reward done homework than penalise not done homework?

MooPointCowsOpinion · 08/08/2016 18:36

Kids who do the homework get the homework marked quickly with feedback, a chance to re attempt and have it remarked, a good report every half term and no detentions. That's enough right?

Late homework just gets ticks/crosses.

TeenAndTween · 08/08/2016 18:40

Moo that's fine.
(I thought you were advocating no homework for anyone)

skatesection · 08/08/2016 18:45

There's not that much evidence that homework makes much of a difference. Reading notes and revising is good to get into the habit of doing but is difficult to check up on. I hate homework so much but I've had to set it in every school I have worked at.

MooPointCowsOpinion · 08/08/2016 18:50

I would suggest no homework for everyone as a nationwide practise to be honest. Kids have a shortened day because they're kids, and we shouldn't then try and lengthen their day with more work out of school hours. They learn best when problem solving in a natural, unforced way.

Some of the best education systems have more playtime, less teaching, and no homework. Our system is shit, it causes mental health issues and doesn't prepare our kids for life or any career, and gives an advantage to the middle and upper classes.

TeenAndTween · 08/08/2016 18:53

skate I can understand that in generality, but certainly for my DD1 homework made a great difference. She succeeded better in subjects with homework, (because I was at home), so I could see the expectations and skills required and help her develop those skills.

Though I do agree it needs to be useful homework, not 'busy work'.
y7 homework of build a castle / shrine took ~3hrs but only included about 20mins of real learning.

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