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Lessons for those left behind on school trips

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taxguru · 25/09/2015 15:43

It's become clear at my DS's school that when some pupils are absent from lessons for trips, sports, educational visits, etc., the pupils left behind are basically doing nothing useful.

It seems that the teachers (or replacements if the teachers are also on the trip) aren't setting proper lessons or giving proper work, but instead letting them do homework, self-study, watch a video, or even allow them just to play on their phones.

I fully understand that the teacher has to make a judgement call on whether to do a normal lesson, as they'll no doubt have to do it again for those absent who've missed something important, but why can't they set some proper work, or even give a lesson on something related to their topic but outside the curriculum, so the kids left behind learn something, but those absent havn't missed anything crucial.

From what I can gather, if more than a handful are going to be absent, then most teachers at DS's school just don't bother with having a proper lesson.

I noticed this a lot last year, (year 8), from what my DS told me, but thought it may have been because year 8 is generally accepted as an "inbetween" year that's not too important. But already this year, they've effectively lost 2 out of 3 Physics lessons because they only have Physics on Friday afternoon, and around 9 of the class are in the Rugby team who seem to play inter-school matches on Friday afternoons, and worse still, the Physics teacher is also a rugby teacher who goes with the team. So not only have they missed 2 lessons, the supply teacher isn't a Physics teacher and they've been allowed to play with their phones as nothing has been left for the supply teacher to hand out, not even any worksheets.

Is this normal, and is it acceptable?

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Leeds2 · 25/09/2015 16:16

At my DD's school, the whole class tended to be on the trip so there was no lesson, iyswim. Only thing I can remember was two weeks in Y9, where most of the children were taking part in French and Spanish exchanges, but at different times, but I think ordinary classes carried on and DC on the trips were expected to catch up.

Sports matches always take place after school.

I wouldn't be happy with the situation you describe for physics, but not sure what I would do about it. Could you maybe speak to the Head of Science?

noblegiraffe · 25/09/2015 16:46

No it is not normal, and it is not acceptable for no cover work to be left for the supply teacher (who would be pissed off at the situation).

Students who miss lessons for sports matches are usually expected to catch up missed work, the other children should not be disadvantaged.

When so many are missing, it can be difficult, but the teacher should be teaching a consolidation or practice lesson, not just letting them mess around.

If the physics teacher is persistently hitting your DS's lesson with rugby matches, I'd complain. It's early yet, so it might just have been unfortunate the way the matches have fallen.

lljkk · 28/09/2015 18:39

9 in the class at Rugby implies that around 15 left behind i.e. a majority.
If it's a typical size state school class.

If it's a private school, then anything goes with timetabling I think.

KingJoffreyLikesJaffaCakes · 28/09/2015 18:45

DS missed a 3 day trip because his bully was going and neither of us trusted the school to prevent any assaults (they didn't give a shite).

The first day they had him and the other kids left behind sharpening pencils for the entire day with another teacher. Hmm DS actually had a blister on his finger from the constant friction.

I took the hint that they didn't want him there and kept him home.

He's learn more playing Minecraft for two days than he would've at school.

BackforGood · 28/09/2015 19:08

No, neither normal nor acceptable.
Sports fixtures are played after school in both my dcs' schools.
Where a large proportion of the year have gone on an educational trip which not everyone has gone on, then they do some kind of a stand alone 'project' type thing, related to the subject, but so others don't miss a crucial lesson.

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