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Lost notes for Controlled Assessment

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Ommis · 11/09/2015 18:24

Our dd (Y11) came home from school at the beginning of the week saying that her notes for the upcoming controlled assessment have been lost by the school, but it was alright as they had offered to photocopy another pupil??s notes. I thought that our dd must have gotten the wrong end of the stick so emailed the head of history at her school. They emailed back this evening and has said that they will "photocopy a set of central notes??.

Could someone offer some advice as to:

  1. Is this plagiarism?
  2. Is this allowed?
  3. How do I find out which exam board the school use, without actually asking the school?
  4. What should I do?

Thanks in advance xx

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Idefix · 12/09/2015 08:34

Personally I would be less worried about plagiarism and more worried about the quality of notes provided.

You should know the exam board as this information would have been available when dd picked options. I would also look on school website, or ask dd? She should also know as she should have done revision papers, what exam board is on dd workbook.

I think it is highly unlikely that this "cheat" would be picked up. Has dd seen the notes she is being provided with, what did she think of them? She will need to have time to familiarise herself with the notes.

I would be chasing this up with the school to find out how they lost her notes it sounds really very careless and disorganised. What does dd think.

Idefix · 12/09/2015 08:38

Are central notes the same as another students notes?
Could dd re do the notes this weekend?
We have had to do this with ds who spilt a drink over his work (had spotted he had dd lid on bottle and removed it rather than catch the lurgy Wink) was not able to do the whole thing in class and was sent home with it. Fairly sure that this was not within the rules...

Ommis · 12/09/2015 12:29

Thank you Idefix.

They have not yet provided the notes as they want to be sure that they really are lost, which I find beyond infuriating (at best).

I have located the exam board thank you, seems obvious now!

dd really doesn??t want to make a fuss at school, but is distraught. At the beginning of the week she wanted to try to resolve the situation herself, but I think we have now at the stage where I need to be much more involved. Their (poor) excuse was that the teacher had to move classrooms over the summer holidays. Hardly secure is it????

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camptownraces · 12/09/2015 12:38

"Hardly secure is it????"

That's what often happens when you bring in outside contractors to do removals. There are quite likely other papers which have been taken to the wrong room. The question is: will the notes turn up before the day set for the assessment.

Idefix · 12/09/2015 12:49

Brew and Cake for dd and you.
Read my early post sorry if I seemed rude or patronising Flowers
I would ask about the opportunities of dd assessment being delayed/rescheduled it seems totally unfair that for dd to feeling so bad about it.
Is there info on the exam board web page about this?
When is the assessment? I would be pushing the school. How much is this assessment worth? Sorry for all the questions

Ommis · 12/09/2015 12:58

Idefix, I didn't pick that up from your post. Our dd has a severe medical condition which can make us hugely over-protective. You have helped us to see that our questions are reasonable (dd thinks we over-react, but when she is crying herself to sleep at night.....). So, I welcome your questions and thoughts.

Since my last post I have read the examination boards advice, and it appears that the school are acting outside of the board's regulations.

Camptownraces, if only the school had used a removal company; they only have themselves to blame!

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Idefix · 12/09/2015 13:11

I think from of the sounds of it you need a face to face meeting its school, this not the start anyone would wish for in yr 11.

It sounds like the school is trying to do a bit of damage limitation but are not taking into consideration your dd needs or what is correct.

The school are definitely acting outside of what is proper. Obviously if they come clean to the exam board this would look bad.

Really hope it gets sorted quickly.

camptownraces · 12/09/2015 13:34

"Camptownraces, if only the school had used a removal company; they only have themselves to blame!"

You're absolutely right then. I've worked in schools where some of those responsible for delivering the post and parcels couldn't read. Things would go missing for weeks.

Idefix · 12/09/2015 14:06

Have you been told if dd is the only pupil to be affected by this? Dh is asking, this time.

Ommis · 12/09/2015 14:36

Idefix,
Unfortunately not, there are 5 others are also in the same situation.

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LooseAtTheSeams · 15/09/2015 12:38

No, the school is definitely bending the rules! If students are using their pwn own notes they usually have to sign to say it's their work and the teacher has to as well. It's worth checking the exam website because usually for a controlled assessment they give you the dates between which they need to be done. I only know about English, but I'd be very surprised if this one has to be done on one day only in year 11. As it's clearly the school's fault, I would be expecting them to reschedule the CA unless there's a clear reason why they can't. (You can phone the exam board to check the timing regulations without mentioning the school's alternative plan!)

LooseAtTheSeams · 15/09/2015 12:44

Just thought - if by central notes, they mean something actually downloaded from the exam board website (there are often a lot of useful resources for teachers!) that would be OK. The issue there would be just having enough time to get familiar with them.
In any case, hope it's all resolved now OP - it must be very stressful for DD.

Twinkle186 · 15/09/2015 13:50

This must be really stressful for your DD op. Just to clarify, is it her notes as in a plan of the assessment write up that have gone missing or is it her class work containing her notes from lessons?

In my department we spend a couple of months teaching the topic in the normal way, during which pupils are free to help each other out, borrow notes for lessons missed etc. Then, once we tell them the question, they use their books to plan and write up their work under exam conditions. If it's a book full of work that's missing, it might be different to a set of notes completed in exam conditions.

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