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6th form exclusion ...?

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MadameSin · 23/05/2015 11:33

Does anyone have any knowledge of this kind of thing? ... we have received a letter from our ds's 6th form informing us that with effect after half term, ds, along with 10 others, have been excluded from the premises due to damage in the toilets and subsequent lack of cooperation regarding who did it. They have cctv footage of ds and many others entering the loos during the period that this damage took place. My son wrote a statement that the doors in the loos had been broken for a while and that he had occasionally put them back on their hinges. There was a bit of shenanigans that took place according to ds, but no damage had been caused by himself. He does know, however, who did the damage but has not said this in his statement. Can a school collectively exclude several pupils formerly, if they do not tell them who did the damage? Obvs we are gutted as he is mid flow A-level exams and for good reason, he is also very stressed out about it all. He doesn't want to name names through fear of the backlash on him. He has never been involved in any trouble at college and the head of 6th form has told me he does not think ds is responsible for the damage. They are also talking about making the parents pay for the damage Sad

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Millymollymama · 26/05/2015 18:59

So, this IS an exclusion!!!! I used to work in this field! So I know something about what schools can do and what they cannot do. The wording such as "you cannot come on the premises" is the way schools get around the law. If it is going to the governors and the LA are informed, it is an exclusion. The school must make appropriate arrangements for the students to take their exams. So my information is correct. Sorry.

Muck up days might be a boarding school "let off steam" day. Usually included taping down loo seats, covering the Head's car with post it notes, putting up "wanted" notices around the school for teachers, staff entertainment night for the pupils, 6th form entertainment night for the staff, a few water pistols.... You get to join in when you get to upper 6th. Actually the local grammar schools do it here - flour and eggs at passing motorists.

MadameSin · 26/05/2015 19:13

I have teacher friends and they dread muck up days ... fire alarms activated, stink bombs and 'rape' alarms thrown all over the place. Add an all boys school into the mix and hey presto

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MrsUltracrepidarian · 26/05/2015 19:19

A muck up day made the national press a few weeks ago at JFS (Jewish Free School) in North London - fireworks being thrown, police being called...
I have taught there a few times, lovely school, well-behaved kids - last place I would have thought of uncontrollable and scary behaviour.

EvilTwins · 26/05/2015 19:34

Flour and eggs at passing motorists?? Oh, but it's grammar school kids so that's ok - just high jinx. Totally fine if someone gets hurt in a car accident as a result Hmm

Milly - it's not an exclusion though is it, if the child is still allowed into lessons.

DoctorDonnaNoble · 26/05/2015 19:55

I teach in a grammar school. Our students do NOT do this. They come in on their last day in their old uniform. They have a leavers' 'do' in the evening and misbehaviour would result in a ban.

titchy · 26/05/2015 20:31

Last year someone set off the fire alarm at dc's comp's leavers day -result - child banned from the prom that night.

Throwing stuff at passing cars would warrant police involvement. That is NOT high jinks ffs, that's criminal.

sunshield · 26/05/2015 20:35

Who remembers this incident from this time last year. ?

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2640381/Pupil-expelled-grammar-school-quizzed-police-throwing-custard-pie-teacher-ictured: Moment grammar school pupil threw the custard-pie at his teacher in end of term prank that got him questioned by police then expelled

sunshield · 26/05/2015 20:42

What were you saying about Grammar school Pupils "DR NOBLE".

Everybody knows there is a rule to go by regarding what is acceptable behaviour

Eton/Harrow Bullingdon Smashing up Restaurants throwing pint pots "high jinks" can pay for the damage !.

Grammar School = water pistols water fights.

Secondary Modern any different or high spirits will be treated with punishment.

It just about sums up the class system of England !.

MadameSin · 26/05/2015 20:56

Love the way Mumsnet posts evolve. I'm staying well out of the Public/State school row Grin

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DoctorDonnaNoble · 26/05/2015 21:00

I was talking about my pupils at my school. They don't do this stuff. At least not in the past 10 years.
It really has nothing to do with the type of school and more to do with the students and set up. For example, many schools now require certain behavioural standards to be met to enable attendance at end of school events.
I don't think our students behave well because they're grammar students - that would be stupid.

Thymeout · 26/05/2015 21:13

Yes - and the school I was talking about earlier - 6th formers too cool to do anything silly - was a SE london comprehensive. They have a ball - literally, as their leavers' celebration.

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