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Would you change school in year 10?

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Frikadellen · 18/03/2015 08:42

dd2 is in year 10. She is very dyslexic and has struggled with her schooling however in the last couple of years she really seems to have begun to understand how to work around this and her predicted grades have gone from D's and E's to a solid lot of B (back in January) The school she is in really seems to academically get what she needs and have been great for her actual schooling.

However Socially she really struggled and we have her coming home in tears regularly, (2-3 times a week) she feels she had no friends that no one wants to talk to her and when she has tried to enter social groups there has been a few unpleasant scenarios of exclusion. There has never been any direct bullying it is more making sure she knows she is not welcome and they dont wish to have anything to do with her. We have contacted the school numerous times about this in the last years and in the beginning they did try to aid her., Giving her access to a special room where other students who struggled went, she did make 1 friend there in year above this girl however has got serious school avoidance issues - wont go into details - so is often not in school 2 or 3 days in a week according to dd. Also with them being in different years it is often complex to meet. DD is also finding this girls from what I understand severe depression difficult to deal with. (I have met the girl and she is lovely however I also know how hard it is to deal with someone who is depressed and dd is only 15)

She has commented a few times that no one else really comes to this room so last time I contacted the school I requested they try to aid dd to find a different way to make friends. They at this time did not engage with me at all, I received no reply however dd did say that she had been spoken to by form tutor and basically they had said she as the onl ystudent would be permitted to go to the art studio with her lunch and do art stuff during lunch. Great as dd loves art however not going to aid her in making friends to isolate her.

Last week it sort of came to ahead . DD has been doing DofE and actually getting along well with the group she was in and had some positive feedback over all of this. Last week a girl in another group had fallen out with the group she was in, she had gone to friends in the group dd is in and those friends had taken it on themselves to basically said that this girl could swap with dd. No one had considered talking to dd about this and nor had they approached a teacher. It had simply been decided amongst them and presented to dd as a done deal. With dd having self confidence issues over all of this and feeling she can't make friends this obviously made her feel awful.

She has got 3 friends from primary who attends a different school. This school is over subscribed however when I phoned them I more or less had suggested that an appeal would perhaps be likely (She said - sometimes the panel does things we don't know why they do for church members) At the time we applied for 2ndary places I had not yet returned to regular church attendance and we could not have got her in. However I have done so in the last 3 years and we can now fullfill the church criteria for this school.
The school has amazing pastoral care and her younger sister will start in the school come September, It also has one of the highest scores of non grammar schools for GCSE's .

I am at a loss as to what to do. She is very unhappy however academically she is thriving. I want my child to have a good education and dd is clever. However I also do not want her growing up with severe self doubts as to if she can make and keep friends. It would be a lot of work for dd to cope with the academic side if this school has gone different approach for GCSE's however I suspect if she was happy and amongst friends she would be able to do this. BUT that is only a "suspects" I don't know what to do and I do not feel there is most point in approaching her current school again as they have not engaged with me over this the last few times. I know it would be a long shot to try an appeal however if I do not try then I am likely placing her on a no friends for the next year and a bit. Is that fair?

I will just add that dd1 is at the same school in 6th form as dd2 and is thriving it is not that I wish to move to what I see as a "better" school.
WWYD?

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Frikadellen · 19/03/2015 19:05

Thank you everyone. It is a difficult situation. If she went to other school thereare later vbusses ao she could attend clubs however academically its tough. Wish I could magic her a best friend

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jazzsyncopation · 19/03/2015 22:27

why dont you just get this academic time out the way and see about 'fresh start':changing for 6th form,in mean time enjoying her life out of school with diff people that aren't in the school cliques? if you move her and her grades suffer and she doesn,t make friends quiclkly[which is harder mid-year probably anyway] think how that's going to make her feel?!

PastSellByDate · 20/03/2015 05:57

I have much younger DDs (Y7 and Y5) so can't really talk about GCSE level work - but just wonder what your options are for sixth form. Could she move then?

In that case it's only one more year. Better to have solid GCSE results (as you say she's thriving academically) than jump into another school so late in the game & have all the adjustment to a new place issues as well.

In terms of feeling excluded - I actually think this is a very common feeling for most teenagers. Your DD shouldn't feel she's the only one with these feelings and surprisingly even some of the most popular people can feel isolated. Modern social media and a tendancy to be fairly cutting about each other probably doesn't help. It sounds like friendships are quite fickle at this school - which also adds to your DDs sense of isolation.

My advice (received from older and wiser friends with teenagers) is keep her active - so active she really can't dwell on things. I've friends with teenage boys as well as daughters - and they all swear by this. Give them chores at home, harrass them about their homework (encouraging them to do extra), chase them off the sofa and get them out helping you in the garden or walk the dog, send them to the shop for milk or bread, encourage clubs & sports, encourage Saturday jobs, etc... but don't let them mope about the place.

They all say keep the moaning to home & set limits (15 minutes feeling sorry for yourself & having a hot drink and snack, and then get on with it); don't show it at school - being cheerful, friendly, kind to others is the best defence. Possibly good advice for working life as well.

HTH

FuzzyWizard · 20/03/2015 06:47

It's also worth bearing in mind that a new school may put her back a year. At this stage in the year any new students joining our school in year 10 are put back into year 9 so that they start GCSEs afresh in September. We've had a few over the last 5 years and they are always put back into year 9 if they join after December. The only exception being girls who should actually be in year 11, who are put back to year 10 but can't realistically go back to y9.

Frikadellen · 20/03/2015 08:03

Thank you everyone.

We do try as far as we are able to keep her active. She is already doing homework and additional work so I don't feel I wish to nag there considering the change inher grades I know she is doing wonderful with this. She is also a avid reader so I keep her supplied with books. I remember myself as a teenager I would escape into books (I was bullied badly myself)

It is easy to say get her into clubs. However many sports have a lot of money attached to it. For example she used to do Tae kwon do and it was several hundred pounds a year to do the exams and fees etc etc. Swimming is the same. She currently does 2 sports and 1 youth club that is 3 clubs a week spanning over 4 days. I think that is a good amount. I have spoken to her about going running herself or going swimming but neither appeals to her. She has at times arranged with old primary friends to go biking and enjoys this but that is once in a blue moon this happens.

She after we had a very long talk has said she feels we should keep her in the school she is in. She is determined to get the grades she need to move in 6th form and we shall doa HUGE round of schools to see where she can do 6th form (She is adament she will go to the 2ndary her younger sister is going to)

the D of E co-ordinator sorted that issue saying no swapping will happen and responded very positively to my email about it. Also asked that I come back if I had further concerns. That is the nicest email I Have had from them for quite some time so I feel hopeful there.

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bluejelly · 20/03/2015 18:57

This all sounds very positive Frikaddellen, well done.

PastSellByDate · 22/03/2015 06:10

Hi Frikadellen:

Just caught back up with this and really pleased to hear your DD won't be swapping DofE groups.

It genuinely sounds like you're doing all you can and that your DD is very motivated to do well and then transfer (which probably helps - academic wise).

I am sorry you and your DD are going through with this. I remember this kind of stuff going on when I was 14/15 and how difficult if was. All I can say is sixth form, University, your first job, etc... will give her lots of opportunities to meet new people and have a fresh start.

In the meantime, wishing your DD best of luck on the Duke of Edinburgh Award.

Hang in there = and sending you variously useful things if there's another bad day Brew Cake Flowers

PSBD

PastSellByDate · 22/03/2015 06:11

sorry that should have read

I am sorry you are going through this.

Not sure how the 'with' got in there - and defnitely not meant. I think you're DD is very wise to want to stick it out - even though it's not easy going.

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