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Son being permanently excluded help

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justcallmethefixer · 06/02/2015 22:45

My DS (y10) is under threat of permanent exclusion. The school is currently looking into a managed move.
his offence meets the criteria for this. It was a one off extreme incident which is being dealt with.
I am looking for advice on what happens now, any body been through a managed move and can share their experience?
Tia

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NickiFury · 06/02/2015 22:47

Would it be to a PRU? There's a great programme about excluded children currently available on BBC iPlayer that might help you. We were on the verge of this with ds (he has ASD) but I removed him and home educated instead.

justcallmethefixer · 06/02/2015 22:50

No not to a PRU, to another secondary in the LEA area, PRU in short supply in our area apparently.

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NickiFury · 06/02/2015 22:52

Have a look at that programme it's actually called excluded I think. It's pretty extreme but very informative and might give you some insight. Sorry you're going through this, it's very stressful.

Nerf · 06/02/2015 22:54

He wouldn't go to a pru unless he was permanently excluded and it sounds was though they are suggesting avoiding this by organising a managed move. Is he on-board w I th starting again? Do you think he will want to succeed in the new school? If you feel it was an unfair decision or there were other circumstances you can appeal the decision to exclude but can't then have a managed move if the decision is upheld.

justcallmethefixer · 06/02/2015 23:06

The school are justified in their actions. I have no winnable reason for appeal. DS knows this is the best possible outcome due to his actions.
He was placed on fixed term exclusion starting Monday 2nd for 5 days. I attended a meeting with deputy head Wednesday at which I was informed all options were being considered. 4pm today (Friday) the head calls me to say he wants a permanent exclusion but prefers a managed move if possible.

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tiggytape · 06/02/2015 23:10

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justcallmethefixer · 06/02/2015 23:16

Do you know if the lea will fund transport if the new school is over 4 miles away (I think that is statutory distance)

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ILoveOnionRings · 06/02/2015 23:16

Managed moves can work very well, do you have any knowledge of the school they are offering? I would suggest that a managed move is the better option as you are less likely for your DS to miss a chunk of time. If it was my DS I would bite the bullet and go with the managed move rather than go through the process of a Permanent Exclusion.

I haven't been involved in Permanent Ex for a couple of years but we had to adhere to a strict time line. I have had a quick count in my head the number I have had to do the paperwork for and 9 out of the 11 have all been for one off events, usually the assault of another student or adult.

As far as I can remember, if the student/ parent did appeal whilst the time elapsed for the appeal to take place the student was not at school. The school is only obligated to provide work for the first 5 or 10 days of the exclusion (this may have changed in the last 2 years). We have never had an Permanent Ex appeal be successful for the parent either.

There should be guidance on the Dfe website for the time of process of a permanent exclusion.

Have you any information of the proposed school?

ILoveOnionRings · 06/02/2015 23:19

Sorry cross posts.

Usually you apply direct to the LA for the bus pass - schools have no say on whether a bus pass can be issued, the school just signs and stamps it to confirm they are a student at the school

justcallmethefixer · 06/02/2015 23:28

There are various schools being considered, the closest said no due to numbers, alternatives are being approached next week.
I support a managed move, it is the best outcome for a difficult situation. It's the practicalities of going through it that concern me.
He is part way through 10 GCSEs, one to be sat this year & 2 btecs, how does a transfer work for GCSEs studied?

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lljkk · 06/02/2015 23:36

You'll have to ask about part GCSEs, in our LEA the schools all follow the same exam board and most schools offer same subjects so surprisingly painless to change within the area for most options.
Good luck. Flowers

Quitethewoodsman · 06/02/2015 23:50

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Caronaim · 07/02/2015 08:36

It will almost certainly result in a drop in his overall achievement, as obviously the new school is unlikely to be able to match his exactly what he is doing in each GCSE, however that is a small price to pay, if the alternative is permanent exclusion.

I've been involved in over 100 such arrangements, about over half result in the child being successfully assimilated into the new school, but it is easier if you are in year 8 or 9.

This is a very upsetting time for you, and there is no getting away from the fact that your son has messed up badly, and this will affect his education and life chances, however, a managed move does give him the best opportunity to minimise the damage done.

He will only have one chance, though.

travellingbird · 16/02/2015 16:58

www.schoolexclusionproject.com/ will be able to help you! They provide free advice, support and legal representation to help you challenge permanent exclusion.
Hope you and your son are ok.

ValancyJane · 18/02/2015 11:08

I know some posters have already said it, but I also have seen managed moves work fantastically well. Most recently a student from my tutor group went from a school where he and his brothers were notorious to a different school that has now taken him on permanently. A change of scene and not having his peers make assumptions about him seems to have worked wonders.

Good luck to you Flowers

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