what else has gone wrong at Westminister (branching off from Westminster Maths thread)

[boys3]

A separate thread so as not to detract from the maths focus on the original thread.

The answer to the question posed in the title would appear to be "absolutely nothing" as far as the most recent available stats are concerned.

However Summerends cheeky request will be provided below shortly.

pet if you weren't so terribly busy and important and had read the thread, you'd know that most posters have not been saying Oxbridge is the best university.

I wonder if you barge into conversations in RL, only to make a fool of yourself?

No Word, seriously, in real life and especially at lunch break, my colleagues who would all be gathered at the staff room after their meals, couldn't wait for 'The President' (that's what they call me - now I'm in danger of outing myself) to arrive to give my opinions on things they want to know.

One just walks in on an open forum to give one's opinion(s). There's no need to barge in! I walked in to see what 'had gone wrong' with Westminster School only to find earth shattering data and statistics on Oxbridge entry. Hope you've learned something from me . . .

I have another hypothesis that could contribute to the relatively lower offer / application rate that Molio might have expected from Westminster and similar (based on anecdotal evidence). I think some very able sixth formers actually focus their efforts to the USA with a more 'allrounder application and set of skills which may detract from the 'depth required for Oxbridge interview. They however still apply to Oxbridge so as not to close off that option.
Peteneras, your colleagues must have a GSOH.

here you go summer all England breakdown. Cohort success rate:

45% to 50% 1 school, 45.2%

35% to 40% 2 schools, both Indies, avg 36.9%

30% to 35%, 5 schools, all indies, avg 32.6%

25% to 30%, 5 schools, all indies , avg 27.3%

20% to 25%, 5 schools, all indies, avg 21.0%

15% to 20%, 22 schools, 16 indies & 6 state, avg 17.3%

10% to 15%, 51 schools, 37 indies & 14 state, avg 12.0%

5% to 10%, 137 schools, 89 indies & 48 state, avg 6.9%

0.1% to 5%, 1533 schools, 271 indies & 1262 state, avg 1.2%

0% (eg no successful applications), 233 schools, 38 indies & 195 state

In truth the final 0% will be higher and the 0.1 to 5% lower as Cambridge, unlike Oxford, do not specify the actual number of applications and accepts, where an individual school has less than 3 candidates in one or other category. Obviously an average per school can be worked out, but it means there will be some schools counted in for Cambridge who in reality received no offers. Just to put that in context we're talking almost 1000 schools with less than 3 applications to Cambridge.

The 394 schools from Scotland, Wales, NI. Channel islands with applications are not included as the DoE does not report any info on them - something about devolved government :). Between them they managed around 230 offers, and there are only a handful of schools who might have crept towards the 5% cohort success rate.

78 English schools I could not reconcile with the DoE data (they have a few postcode data quality issues). However again these schools in total had 24 offers fairly evenly spread so cohort figs likely to be low (only 1 school with more than 1 successful applicant).

It is just the 2013 cycle data, but if I get a moment I might have a look at the 2012 and 2011 figures as I have all the data electronically.

Enjoy :)

*Uilen" I should add very good call by you on those smaller sized independents.

applicant success at school level can range hugely.

Those schools with 10% or more of overall cohort successful had an average 39% applicant success rate, ranging from 26% to close to 90%.

boys3: I am experienced in Oxbridge admissions and my own DC attends an independent which has a small but high achieving sixth form. (The school is high in league tables but wasn't on your original list because it doesn't send 30+.)