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Separated and different views on secondary school

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apsergeskidsrcool · 01/10/2014 11:50

My ex and I were together 10 years. We have been separated 4 years and I will be marrying later this year.

Our son is 11

While my life is now unrecognisable Dads life hasn't changed. He still works the same job, same shift, the house is still messy with DS's toys from when he was a toddler... It's like he's trapped in limbo.
His family think he's depressed.
He's not a particularly nice person. I was controlled and manipulated. His personal babysitter, had to be in by 10pm or he'd lock the door, that kind of thing.

He's on TV and people think he's great until they meet him and he comes across as rude and obnoxious. He has only a few friends and even these told me to run for the hills.

The truth is that he's very possibly apserges like our son. He's very intelligent, he can be very loving, but mostly he enjoys arguing and conflict.

Now the problem.

We live in different cities and when I left I had to agree to stay in his city and continue to offer after school care until he finished work at 8pm. I suppose I was still under the thumb at this point and so I bought a house in the City (not that this pleased him as it was the wrong side of the city).

After a few months I realised I had a really bad deal. I was his personal babysitter. I worked in another city but had to get home to collect DS only to hand him over at 8pm at night.
I had to get a solicitor involved to make it more fair for me but I still offered him any 50/50 arrangement angement he wanted to keep the peace.

He wanted to split the week down the middle. He's the only one who thinks it's a good idea but it was progress so I said yes.

So I met my fiancee, we work in another city, now live there and I commute three days a week for the school run. We travel 40 miles each way. Weekends are alternate and I font take a penny from him, he pays for next to nothing. Even when I was unmployed and getting final demands for dinner money he refused to pay. (despite me paying his mother's phone contract for the last 7 years).

Secondary school.
I am refusing to commute any longer. I am getting married, I need to stand up to him.
It's hard though. The school think he's a local celebrity and assume he makes the better decisions. They've already tole me that taking our son to another LEA is very difficult.

I've told Dad that whichever school DS goes to, the parent who lives closest will have him Mon-Fri. I said last year let's both make a plan detailing after school care each could offer. He promised to right up until the deadline and then said he wouldn't and so he hasn't.

His Dad wants DS to go to a mainstream school near his house. Yet can't provide any afterschool care. He works until 8pm still and days he can't change that. He says I should continue to commute as I chose to move away.

I want DS to go to a specialist apserges school in my city where I can be there after school Mon-Fri and have a full time job in the Police. It's also the best school for him, it has an outstanding offsted report.

Meanwhile I applied for DLA and was awarded it. I give his father half (I did t even have to tell him but wanted to be fair) but he doesn't spend it on our son. He doesn't take him to any classes or book anything, he has no time. I take him swimming and tennis in my city. His father earns three times as much as me yet always claims to be broke.

So in short how can we get a decision made? My choice means taking his statement out of the area, his choice means DS will be at a huge disadvantage...

Any advice would be greatfully received.

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apsergeskidsrcool · 01/10/2014 18:36

I've always spelt Asperges without the R, just a bad habit.

The fact Dad works in TV 'is' relevant and ironically you are highlighting exactly why it's relevant, thanks for being my example...

When you are an ex partner sitting in a school meeting, who do you think the teachers are listening to more, me or the guy on telly? Who do you think the mothers watch as we enter, me or the guy on telly? It's not fantastical, it's my every day. The fact that you think it's some kind of brag says more about you than it does me.

I'm up against a big character, I am looking at a C100 yes, thanks to some of the more useful replies made on this thread. Good call to you guys. It is appreciated. Still however, the thought of standing in front of a judge next to him knowing that he'll be giving him more credibility than me (IMO) is terrifying and unfair- but understandable.

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apsergeskidsrcool · 01/10/2014 18:40

@steppemum
Thanks, I'll take a look there too. Most subjects we just get by on. I'm really easy going as long as my Son is happy and safe. But this subject, Education, is the real issue. Hence why I posted here.
My question is more of a legal one. Who has final say? It's not really one about my relationship with my Ex, I dare say it's nothing new for ex's to be awkward. It's how the law can help me deal with it.
I think I've found the answer though, a specific issue order is absolutely the way forward.

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apsergeskidsrcool · 01/10/2014 18:47

Hello, actually he's incredibly flexible. He doesn't like surprises so as long as he knows where he will be and when he's really easy going.
He loves the long commute as he gets me all to himself and we have long conversations (well, he talks 'at' me but it's enjoyable) and its really lovely bonding time.
On the downside his father doesn't do homework with him so I have to do it all when I collect him. I've collected him today for example, Wednesday and he hasn't had a shower since Saturday morning, quite shocking really.
It's very tough when we don't agree and our Son notices and tried to peace keep or can sometimes violently take sides.

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apsergeskidsrcool · 01/10/2014 18:54

@Thegirlfromipanema Thanks for your support and you're spot on. It's not a 9-5 business. I can tell you know what you're talking about too. It's actually a relief to hear somebody simply say that they understand.
I've received some good advice from a couple of you and feel I've a clearer way forward now so thank you.

@titchy My son would call you a 'noob'. Since it's a word he's made up I can spell it however I like. Feel free to spell check the rest of the thread though, you clearly have time.

Good night folks, and thanks again!

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inthename · 01/10/2014 20:26

Courts aren't pleasant places, and it can feel like the judge is swaying towards the other person. When this happens, if you do go to court, stay strong and don't react, I found the best way was to refer to the child being discussed as 'our son' rather than 'my son' because the judge looks to you thinking about what is in the childs best interests rather than what either parent 'wants'
And the biggest piece of advice, don't assume that you've worked out what the judge is thinking! I thought my sophisticated ex had convinced the judge of what he wanted, but in my case my ex ended up with less than he went in with because he tried to tell the judge what to do and that being a high flying businessman somehow made him 'better' than anyone else.
Steppes advice on checking the admissions requirements for both schools is essential, as you need to know quickly how much relevance your sons main address is and also whether he needs to have the specialist aspergers school named on his statement to qualify for entry, because you don't want to go down the legal route if the admissions criteria means you couldn't apply anyway x

inthename · 01/10/2014 20:35

And on a final note, I suppose the answer is in law that neither of you have the final say, because in the eyes of family law you are both equal as parents and both have exactly the same rights as the other. It might help you as you've never been in court before to look up parental responsibility and the CAFCASS website, which gives a checklist of what a court will consider when making decisions about children. Ultimately, when parents can't agree, the law is applied and the law gets the final say.

WhoKnowsWhereTheTimeGoes · 01/10/2014 23:02

Is the Asperger's School state or independent? If independent has he been offered a place? Does he meet the entry criteria? You can't get it named on a statement unless he has an offer, and even then it's likely to be a tough slog getting the LEA to agree to fund it.

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