Is there any chance of her ever getting a c

[Asdmum96]

She got a g in maths gcse last year and this year got a u. Will she ever get a c?

Oh dear, when is she re-sitting? DS, who has AS, has got a D 3 times now, I can't see him ever getting the magical C either.

College won't allow to re sit. That's a a shame about your ds. Have you looked at a tutor to push him that extra little bit?

I'm assuming from your name she has ASD?

The answer probably depends on exactly why she's getting these grades. Can she do the work in class? How has she done with other subjects? Do you think the teacher is any good? There are interventions that can work wonders, but it all depends on exactly what your DD's issues are. The lovely people on the Special Needs section may have good hints.

He's had a tutor in the past but refuses to engage with Maths now and has lost all interest saying he needs to concentrate on his A levels.

I take it he wants to go to uni? Does he know if his course requires him to have a c?

ASDmum - when you say the college won't let her retake do you mean that she is going to be doing functional skills instead?

Yes she will have to do functional skills. She says she hates the class as it is very noisy.

Hi Sauvignon!
Never thought of tutoring. My DD had tutoring for Y11. She took maths when they did the modular exams. Changed teacher in Y10 and her B & C's went down to D. Ended up with a B.

Could you show him this. It is so important for them get a maths qualification that he needs to concentrate on it as well as A levels. He only a few marks off a C and if he's not careful his D could go down to an E
I don't know the ins and outs of uni but would have thought all of them want english and maths.

ASDmum - I don't know much about SNs but I have read on here that some can't deal with the noise rather than just finding it irritating. Either way can you speak to the course tutor about it. Are you able to spend some time gong over things with her.

My DS is having to continuing with english and his head of department said that even if starts level 1 functional skills (highly likely) if he works hard he can move up to level 2 and then onto GCSE. He has two years at college to work his way through.

Highly recommend a tutor. It may not seem important now, but depending on what she wants to do later may have an impact, and wold be easier to improve grade now than start from scratch as an adult.

It's exceptionally unlikely that she will get a C by simply going to classes, I'm afraid.

If she has got a G and a U, assuming that she tried, then she has a severe difficulty with maths for some reason. A G is roughly a level 3, she is working well below the expected level of an 11 year old. She presumably has some SEN? Processing issues? Dyscalculia? Poor working memory?

If so, if she is ever to have a hope of a C, then she needs an intensive intervention from someone skilled in maths SEN. To get from a level 3 to a level 7 is normally about 6-7 years of schooling, so this is unlikely to be something achieved with a short term fix, or simply hiring a tutor for a year.

I thought my DS1 would never get it, his math is just dire, numbers are just marks on a piece of paper, quantity has no meaning, his mock results was awful something like 10% he was bottom set for math. I've over the years cajoled my DS threatened bribed shouted grovelled all to no avail. He was just hopeless at it.
Then my DH as part of his "you're not meeting my DS's education needs" attack on the head mentioned that he had to pass math and the slightly intimidated head moved him to a set where children were expected to pass, no one was expected to pass in bottom set, with a fantastic slightly autistic teacher, a math genius apparently but a whizz at making things easy and unlimited patients (he needed it) four months later he got a C we celebrated as if he'd got an A*.
He'd also has a tutor(s) since primary and we just endlessly plugged away, he did endless past papers, I took the view that you don't need to understand it just learn how to answer questions not why you answer them? Who cares why 8x8 is 64 it just is. I also repeated ad infinitum the mantra pass it the first time and that's the end of it, he knew he had to have it for Uni. Finally I also endlessly told him to just attempt a question don't leave it because you think you can't answer it this what he always did maybe only answering 1 out of 10 because he didn't like the look of the others and you might pick up a few marks, he got 87%. On the day of the math results came out I was so nervous only comparable with the day I sat my driving test!
Don't give up if my DS can do it so can anyone's.

Oh my DS by the wY has severe processing problems bottom 3% of population and working memory problems bottom 10% of the population but an IQ top 5% of population.
As I said if he can do so can anyone's DC.

happygardening (great name!) your DS is lucky to have parents who beleive in him and give him the tools to succeed. Whatever he does, that will be an amazing gift - you and your Dh sound lovely!

believe

Happy gardening well done to your ds and you!

Not sure we're wonderful parents!
OP just don't give up. Your DD can do it.

Happy, your DS has done brilliantly to make so much progress so quickly and you must be very proud of him. You mention his IQ is in the top 5%. Others who are in a similar position grade-wise are nowhere near that in terms of IQ and may also suffer from the SEN issues. I would hesitate to say that if your DS can do it, anybody can.

I agree a high IQ helps but very poor processing and pretty rubbish working memory are a massive handicap to a high IQ. He was in bottom set math and his predicted grade post his mocks in November was a U he sat the actual GCSE in February.
The one thing we found was that suddenly the penny dropped, all those years of tutoring, cajoling, threatening, bribing, shouting, grovelling practising past papers etc seemed to pay off about 4 weeks before he sat the exam. I think he also really took on board the idea of pass it the first time round then you can forget it for ever.
He actually came out of the exam saying it was easy perhaps we were lucky that time it was. A lot of it IME is lack of confidence and fear of math, also he just had no interest. It just doesn't capture his very active imagination and not helped by his younger brother who's always found math a breeze how ever hard they make it.