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How much marking done in secondary school science books? WWYD?

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JasonOgg · 25/05/2014 11:27

My DD has brought all her books back home to revise from over the holiday, as she has end of year exams the first week back. Out of interest I was having a flick through the science one as a) she has not had the best science report this term where usually it is one of her better subjects, and b) I teach primary and am interested in the difference between the teaching of KS1/2 and KS3.
Out of all the work in her science book only about 10% has been marked. And I am including a tick as marking which I wouldn't get away with! The lack of marking even includes what look like tests where a blank has been left for the correct answer.
Now is this typical for science or is marking in secondary in general a different kettle of fish? I have to mark against the learning objective and still give direction to what needs doing next/to improve. I have never had this problem with her books before but on some pages she won't know if what she wrote is correct or not. I'm seriously considering having a word with the house master (head of lower school).
WWYD? Advice?

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diddlediddledumpling · 25/05/2014 11:31

Sounds normal to me. I mark home works and tests. When we go over tests, students should write in the correct answer. Is that what you mean about the blank space?

They are required to become much more independent learnersxand and part of this is managing their own notes.

Also remember that the science teacher may teach well over 100 students and cannot possibly do the same amount of classwork marking that a primary teacher does for each pupil.

P3ppaPig · 25/05/2014 11:32

Marking at secondary is different. But I would imagine that more of that book should have been marked! What year is your dd in? The reason I ask, is I know my yr10 science students havent had much of their books marked as they have been revising for their gcse exams (so seems mean to pinch their books).
For ks3, our dept policy is to mark every 2 weeks. But in reality I struggle to keep up with this (hence why I have bought 70+ books home this half term). I am also marking assessments etc during the normal 2 week cycle iyswim.

EduardoBarcelona · 25/05/2014 11:34

if you are PAYING for this education Wink I would complain
just dont go in too heavily - we had a marking blip recently as we were all reeling from a terminal cancer diagnosis of a colleauge, explaining that to parents soon shut them up

JasonOgg · 25/05/2014 11:53

DD is year 8. I understand the independent learning aspect, but this is the teacher who also failed to give her the notes for the lesson she missed due to a 1:1 music lesson. She then did poorly in a test as she couldn't answer questions based on this. He feels very uninterested and to be honest the marking just seems to reflect this. A quick flick through the other books do reveal a much lower level of marking than I would do, which is fine, but what there is is MUCH more helpful.
I think I will have a quiet chat with the house master - no guns blazing here! I am paying for her education (well regarded indi) but would feel the same if it was paid for through my taxes!

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EduardoBarcelona · 25/05/2014 11:54

the KID needs to catch up after a music lesson,
NOT the teacher

JasonOgg · 25/05/2014 11:55

The school policy is that the child is given notes from lessons missed as long as it is for 1:1 drama/music or illness.

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intheenddotcom · 25/05/2014 15:16

Depends what the policy is - which you should know or be able to request.

Our policy is:

  • No notes given for catch up for missing lessons. Notes are on VLE and students are expected to be proactive. Only exception is long-term absence.
  • Tick and flick with brief comments - correct spelling, explain this, use example for class work.
  • Assessments and homework are marked in detail and leveled.
  • Tests are marked in the most part by students and they are asked to write in correct answers and comments (e.g. on Q3 you should have given the formula) - these are then checked by teacher when imputing marks.
  • Class work must be marked AT LEAST once a half-term, but most departments say once every four-weeks.

Secondary is a lot different to primary and there simply isn't the time for detailed marking of every piece of work for every class.

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