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Erebus · 01/10/2013 19:23

See? Just like I said.

Thanks to Poodlechops for awakening memories I thought my therapist had long suppressed Grin

The old, hijacked thread for any new-comers: here

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Chubfuddler · 01/10/2013 22:39

I always went for the top side gate by the hardly used old building science lab, as long as you were quick you could be into Vicky park and away. The back gate was a bit exposed, your intent was clear from yards away.

BetsyBidwell · 02/10/2013 07:13

Yy. Five. Typo

PoodleChops · 02/10/2013 07:59

Yes Nadder, Bourne, Avon, Wylye, Ebble - tut tut - detention !

PoodleChops · 02/10/2013 08:00

No sneaking out the top or side for us - Mr Radford went running lunchtimes on that route and would catch people.

overthemill · 02/10/2013 15:55

When I was there old building top corridor was science and library. 6th form. Common room was next to art room. Back gate near home ec was quickest way out. Loved swimming pool out of skl hours, hated it during lessons!

TapTapBangBang · 02/10/2013 15:58

Bloody hell! You've all given me a shock - also SWGS 1993-1995 (A levels only). Only remember my Physics teacher (Mr Rolt), Chemistry (Mr Fitzsimons and Mrs Clayton) and Maths (Mr Wood and Mrs Barnes).

Won't post on the BWS one because I only know of it from meeting boys at lunch and they were all quite forgettable. Don't really know the BWS school part at all.

TapTapBangBang · 02/10/2013 15:59

Bloody hell I'm going to have to name change again because my mum keeps finding me (she's my MN stalker) and I'll be very easy to find from this post!

Erebus · 02/10/2013 18:16

And the strength that raised Stonehenge, ONWARDS, ONWARDS lead us!

Poor Miss Butler.

How can you 'phase out' lacrosse?

Can't you just have someone say "Feck me, that seems dangerous, smacking people around the head with heavy duty fishing nets whilst flinging a small depth charge around a pitch that has no outer boundaries...

It was the young and pretty new games teacher (who went on to marry Dr Bowen-Jones) who introduced hockey to the school- 1977 ish? Miss Schofield didn't hold with that new-fangled rubbish at all- but it meant that, should you be unfortunate enough to be chosen for the hockey team, you didn't have to travel 500 miles of a Saturday to a fixture at some St Trinian's or other that was required of lacrosse. You could actually play ^local schools!

And what was 'Third Home' exactly?

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Erebus · 02/10/2013 18:24

So The Test (not one of the Five Rivers, surely?!). How many 'O' (Old Building) classrooms were there? O22? Wasn't that the single storey stand-alone chemistry lab?

Someone spoke, up-thread of there being an IT room or rooms!- which of course cannot be correct. This is South Wilts we're talking about here, gels! Grin

But I do recall something that happened: in about 1978 there was a parents' evening and during the course of the evening, a father had the temerity to ask why one DD was being taught typing at St Edmunds whereas the other, at SWGS, wasn't, seeing as the signs were there that it might be an important skill in the future.

Miss Matthews apparently rose to her full height and said "Sir, my gels will have their own secretaries, they will not need to learn to type!"

So there.

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Chubfuddler · 02/10/2013 18:32

I can type, properly. I did a pitman certificate as an evening class during sixth form. I do have a secretary though

Chubfuddler · 02/10/2013 18:33

Wasn't the home ec block O something as well? I think it went up to O25.

Erebus · 02/10/2013 18:36

Good point re the 'O's! There was a music room (Miss Butler's), a small room the teachers took their lunch in (otherwise a peripatetic music teachers room) & 2 kitchens, one of which was my form room in 2nd form!

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BetsyBidwell · 02/10/2013 20:34

I remember a move towards business studies. That was deemed worthy of st eds too -
terrible terrible snobbery

soul2000 · 02/10/2013 23:18

I must say as a outsider South wilts sounded like a great school.
A school that was and is offering a public school type education to
bright girls.

That is why it infuriates me, that most people on this site are vehement
in their opposition to selection on the basis that only 20% can benefit from being at great schools.

People believe that if the schools are not available to everyone then no one should benefit from them. I think this is a very misguided view.

Sorry i interrupted you Alumuni site.

swhobbit · 02/10/2013 23:25

Gosh just seen this thread ! I was 6th form 79- 81 , did Geog , History & English A levels. Loved Geog teacher who was youngish male from Hull Uni , had a crush on History teacher but can't remember her name & had the looney English teacher that was always off his head ! Dated a BW boy so always sneaking out via the back route ! Lol must go back and read thread properly !

BetsyBidwell · 03/10/2013 02:10

It wasn't public school type education thank god. A few of us there had moved there to escape that shit

Erebus · 03/10/2013 07:46

soul- yes, maybe it was or even is a 'great school'- but only for those on the inside. You can afford to be 'great' if you hand pick who can and can't get in; and these days, parents have to opt into the 11+ therefore the DDs at the school not only are 'clever enough', they also have committed, dedicated and focused parents (that's before anyone states: "You can't equate clever with well-behaved"...). You'd want to know why a school wasn't great with that sort of intake! Win win.

Inclusion, by its very nature, causes exclusion. You don't see many people campaigning for the retention of SMs, do you?

I am opposed to GS because of this fact alone. I do not see why the vast majority of DC can't be educated alongside each other, but rigorously streamed in academic subjects. And maybe I'd be less anti-GS if GSs contained the truly, genuinely able, maybe some hyper-bright DC (as vouched for by independent teachers, Heads of primaries, a long record of high achievement, not an exam on one day) who just wouldn't be able to cut the mustard in a comp, the most academic 2-3% (in the same way as we have other specialised schools for those with SENs at the 'other end' of the spectrum); but not those with just the most committed parents, usually with deep pockets to pay for 7 years of Prep school, tutors etc. and who have a private alternative lined up.

I'm not sure that GS were created for these people but in many cases, that's what they've become.

Rant over.

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Erebus · 03/10/2013 07:47

swhobbit -the Geog teacher, wasn't that Mr Rusinek? Terribly exotic creature, taught Human Geog at A level....

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overthemill · 03/10/2013 09:03

In my day SWGS was 11+ entry only except for 6th form and those who came in year, usually military family girls but I always assumed they's been grammar school pupils elsewhere. We had loads of Godolphin Girls coming in 6th form.

I have 3 sisters and 2 of us got in and 2 didn't, each went to different secondary moderns. Both were/are just as bright as the two who did get in. The eldest went on to do medicine!

Erebus · 03/10/2013 19:22

It's always been 11+ entry (into 1st form or Y7), OTM- it's just that the 11+ has changed somewhat in the intervening years!

I must say we got a few gels come into the school over the years who maybe hadn't come from GSs elsewhere- I specifically recall the DD of a chap who was 'high up' in the cathedral hierarchy who came to the area when the DD was 14 or 15. She suddenly found herself a place at SWGS but blimey, absolutely lovely but thick as. Really.

Strings were Pulled, methinks! BUT I also recall girls in my year who left at the end of 5th form with 4 'O' levels. IMHO they weren't ever really GS material. And I know of girls, personally, who entered SWGS 6th form from places like St Eddie's with 8 'O' levels. They'd been 'mis-selected' at 11, too.

We didn't have any Godolphin girls, to the best of my knowledge come into 6th Form, but quite a few from La Retraite who wanted more science based A levels.

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swhobbit · 03/10/2013 21:24

Oh yes Mr Rusinek & Old Buttram! They took us on a field trip to Wales & we managed to get stuck down a pot hole ! Mr Merwood ( just read BWS thread ) was the nutty Eng teacher who managed to teach us wrong Chaucer text & was obsessed with Milton ! Fond memories but glad I no longer live locally Grin

PoodleChops · 05/10/2013 19:44

Erebus.
I seem to recall that hockey wasn't available for us until 6th form (part of sixth form studies) From 1977 until 1983, it was only Lacrosse, Netball, Tennis, Swimming & Athletics.

The games teachers from 77 - 84 were Miss Nash, Mrs Farris, Miss White and Miss Schofield.

The Geog dept teachers we had were Mr Foster and Miss Buttram - Mr Rusinek left fairly early on.

Erebus · 07/10/2013 07:59

The 6th form thing re hockey could well be correct; I recall it being introduced by a new games teacher, Miss Page (the one who went on to marry Dr Bowen-Jones). I was in the 6th 1978-80; but for 6th form PE if you had the right free periods, you could do squash (at an army camp) or golf, as well!

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overthemill · 11/10/2013 11:12

Games: lacrosse, netball, tennis, athletics, swimming. in 6th form you could do table tennis and some people did fencing but I never worked out how they did (ie I was never offered it)

Erebus · 11/10/2013 13:55

Yes, there was always fencing kit in the walk-in cupboard in the Gym. I think they had had a Russian teacher who also taught fencing at one stage, but it wasn't available to us in 73-80.

We did volleyball in the Gym in the 6th form.

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