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What are the attainment breakdown figures for a true Comprehensive School.

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soul2000 · 06/09/2013 15:14

If you look at a school like Watford Grammar school for Girls despite being called a Grammar school. In the defination of type of school, in the Dept of Education Performance Tables is called a Comprehensive.

Watford grammar School for Girls only takes 2% low attainers 17% middle attainers and 81% high attainers it has academic selection and yet is designated as a Comprehensive. Maybe the reason it takes 2% low attainers is for legal reasons.

On the basis that Watford Grammar school for Girls is not really a Comprehensive school, what is a realistic breakdown in a affluent area in terms of academic abilty in attainment.

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webwiz · 06/09/2013 15:38

There are two schools locally to me that are comprehensives but have no low attainers at all. I think there is a lot of self selection going on though as once schools get a reputation for being very "academic" parents who feel their children won't thrive in such an environment choose somewhere else.

That doesn't answer your question though!

tiggytape · 06/09/2013 16:25

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Talkinpeace · 06/09/2013 17:40

OP
These are all from one county but should give you some perspective.
All are comps.

Poor city school www.education.gov.uk/cgi-bin/schools/performance/school.pl?urn=137791

Here's a semi rural in demand school www.education.gov.uk/cgi-bin/schools/performance/school.pl?urn=137229&superview=sec

Here's the school next door that people avoid www.education.gov.uk/cgi-bin/schools/performance/school.pl?urn=137315&superview=sec

Here's an isolated school in a market town www.education.gov.uk/cgi-bin/schools/performance/school.pl?urn=136657&superview=sec

Here's a comp that isn't ! www.education.gov.uk/cgi-bin/schools/performance/school.pl?urn=136715&superview=sec

Here's a comp in a very affluent town www.education.gov.uk/cgi-bin/schools/performance/school.pl?urn=116407&superview=sec

ClayDavis · 06/09/2013 18:18

I think the figures nationally, across all maintained schools are about 17% low attainers, 50% middle attainers and 33% high attainers.

One of the schools a family member is looking at uses banding as tiggy described. I think they take 25% from the top, 25% from the bottom and the remaining 50% come from the middle band.

soul2000 · 06/09/2013 18:35

Thank you Talkinpeace. It seems that even though you say the schools are in different Social Economic Areas with the Exception of Thornden 92% A* To C ( Why dont they have a 6th form) that results for GCSE are similar across all of the Hampshire Schools you have shown.

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Marmitelover55 · 06/09/2013 18:35

My DD1's school uses fair-banding. They split applicants into 5 bands based on the results of a non verbal reasoning test, and then randomly pick names out of the hat from each band. This should make the school truly comprehensive, as the catchment area is city wide and beyond. They just got over 90% A*-C inc maths and English at GCSE - which I think is pretty impressive for a school with such a wide ability band.

Talkinpeace · 06/09/2013 18:45

soul2000
No Hampshire schools (other than Ringworm) have 6th forms - all kids go to 6th form college.
This chart shows the continuity of results
www.bbc.co.uk/news/special/education/school_tables/secondary/12/html/bacc_850.stm?compare=
and remember that ALL of the state schools are comps - even the catholic ones are pretty relaxed about it)

and that 2012 ebacc is another unfair one - as the kids had started their courses before Gove announced the darned thing

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