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German - getting started over the summer, any suggestions please?

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WorrySighWorrySigh · 15/07/2013 12:57

DS(14) is starting GCSE German in September when he goes into year 10.

The rest of the class will have already studied German for 1 year as a second MFL. We have promised the teacher that we will help DS to get up to speed before he starts.

DD1 and 2 are on hand to help but does anyone have any suggestions about the materials we could use please? We want it to be fun and to help DS to start the GCSE course with confidence.

Any help or suggestions would be gratefully received.

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forevergreek · 15/07/2013 13:39

Honestly, the best way if you can afford to is to spend time in Germany. Every teen has to do 3 weeks compulsory volunteering between 14-16 years approx in Germany so many places open for it. Maybe too late now for this holiday but maybe for half term/ Easter etc..
I remember working in a zoo and theatre ( English- sent by school abroad).

Otherwise story books are good. If they have a kindle with VoiceOver or iPod or laptop then you can buy audio books o virtually anything. Something they have read in English before may help. The Harry potter ones are good.

Maybe get the basic alphabet pronounciations or simple words online so he has an idea. The forms of machen ( to do), haben ( to have) are probably the first things he will learn. And the whole I, you, she/ he, they etc..

NewFairy · 15/07/2013 17:16

I'm intersted in this too. My DS will start university in October (fingers crossed) and wants to study German in one of his options modules so I have suggested he should tke a look at it thus summer. My thinking was the Rosetta Stone pack, but I think I might be being influenced by their advertising.

Forevergreek - would he really pick up german from listening to a Harry Potter story? I thought something more structured might be better, but am willing to be persuaded otherwise.

GrendelsMum · 15/07/2013 17:30

Go to Germany! (Go to the south, where the ice cream is yummy and the summers are hot.) Have a fabulous family holiday there, and get your DS talking as much as possible.

This is a bit of a weird suggestion, but you can also watch the German version of Midsummer Murders (it's called Inspector Barnaby, and apparently Angela Merkel is a huge fan), if your family enjoys that.

forevergreek · 15/07/2013 18:25

New fairy- I learnt most of my German from teen years onwards. I moved there at 18 fairly fluent, and I would say 90% was from regular books ( ir German Harry potter/ jack reacher etc), and films. Most DVDs have language options nowadays and I'm sure now you can download lots of german films easily.

I also went abroad volunteering as mentioned and to the local uni theatre when films on in German.

Could you host a language student/ exhange etc?

WorrySighWorrySigh · 15/07/2013 21:00

Unfortunately going to Germany or having an exchange student are out of the question this summer.

I suppose what I am really looking for are tips for books/cds/dvds to help get a teenage beginner started. DS was bilingual English/Dutch a few years ago but has now forgotten all his Dutch (and quite a bit of his English Wink).

In September other students in the class will have already had a year of teaching though not started the GCSE course. What we are hoping is that with intensive assistance from his sisters and some good materials that DS will get some confidence before he starts properly in September.

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MrTumblesBavarianFanbase · 15/07/2013 21:13

I would start by letting him watch films he is already familiar with but switch the language to German. Many UK DVD releases don't have German as an option, so you might need to buy films you already have again on amazon.de

Personally I think novels (even familiar ones) come into their own closer to A level than the summer before starting GCSE with no prior knowledge.

You could buy a Letts GCSE revision book and just learn the first few irregular and some regular verbs - don't overdo it, they orobably won't have learnt huge amounts in year 9 alone.

When German kids start learning English vocabulary flashcards and vocabulary bingo are popular - I am sure you'll find the same for learning German on Amazon. Alsp make sure he knows to capitalise nouns, and how to pronounce the letters of the alphabet.

If you do all that hopefully he'll be in a reasonable pisition without having been put iff!

GrendelsMum · 15/07/2013 21:53

Is there a German equivalent to the Coffee Break Spanish podcast? If so, that might get him off to a flying start.

TheWoollybacksWife · 15/07/2013 22:04

My DDs are using the Duolingo app. DD1 is using it for Italian and DD2 is doing German and Spanish.

I have no idea if it helps with grammar and written skills but my girls are enjoying using it.

daphnedill · 15/07/2013 23:53

If the rest of the class has only done German as a second MFL for a year, they won't have done much.
It would help if you your DS knows how to talk about himself and his family (relationships, ages, descriptions, hobbies, where you live, etc.) This would give you an opportunity to teach the present tense and cases.
The most commonly used textbook in schools is "Echo". If you want to buy a book, I would advise buying "Echo Express 1".
If you want some video, it's possible to watch "Hallo aus Berlin" on YouTube. It's quite old (and looks dated) but it covers KS3 and is (in my opinion) the best language series the BBC ever produced.

luxemburgerli · 16/07/2013 05:56

If the school hasn't broken up can't you ask the teacher to give you the year 9 text book and/or an idea of what they've done?

solveproblem · 16/07/2013 06:11

Make him watch lots of German films with English subtitles.

CarpeVinum · 16/07/2013 06:42

Try these,

www.duolingo.com/ (free)

www.babbel.com (not free)

All very basic

CGP also have language books with CD specifically for revising for the GCSE.

www.cgpbooks.co.uk/

You can buy them through amazon too.

WorrySighWorrySigh · 16/07/2013 07:09

Many thanks! lots of resources to look for.

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teabagpleb · 16/07/2013 07:31

BBC website has decent free resources. verbs - sein (to be), haben (to have) and machen (regular, to make/do), vocabulary about family, pets, schools, where you live.

WorrySighWorrySigh · 16/07/2013 08:43

Many thanks again. I have checked with school, they are using Echo Express so I will also look into getting that.

Plan is to help DS get started and keep DD2 up to speed. DD1 already has GCSE German and is also a fluent Dutch speaker. I'm hoping that the combination of DD1's language skills, DS's desire not to be outsmarted by his little sister and DD2's desire to outsmart her big brother will have the desired effect.

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lainiekazan · 16/07/2013 13:27

Das Boot might appeal. We are watching it at the moment and ds age 14 is enjoying it and it is not too wordy so you can pick up a good few phrases.

daphnedill · 16/07/2013 16:24

There are also some teacher-created games on www.funwithlanguages.vacau.com/

You could also have a look at
gut.languageskills.co.uk/index.html (free outside school hours).

daphnedill · 16/07/2013 16:29

New Fairy,
Your DS could try "Deutsch Interaktiv" from "Deutsche Welle" www.dw.de/learn-german/german-courses/s-2547

It's free and moves at a fairly fast pace.

derektheladyhamster · 16/07/2013 16:30

we were recommended these websites (although we haven't checked the out yet!)
www.memrise.com/course/44/minimum-viable-german/

www.germanpod101.com/

www.dw.de/episode-01-a-visit-to-the-countryside/a-2438302

WorrySighWorrySigh · 16/07/2013 17:08

Good suggestion about Das Boot, thank you. DS is into all things military so that might capture his interest.

Again, many thanks for all the resource suggestions.

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forevergreek · 16/07/2013 18:00

Also der untergang

WorrySighWorrySigh · 18/07/2013 20:43

Many thanks again

DD is going to ask the teacher what needs to be covered as well.

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Dundonald · 20/09/2013 18:48

Why don't watch German satellite TV?

WorrySighWorrySigh · 20/09/2013 20:12

DS has started the course properly. I asked him, he said he is bottom of the class but not by far.

We will keep him moving along.

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