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Daughter only going to get 5E"s at G.C.S.E what can my Daughter do next year?

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morry1000 · 04/07/2013 12:24

DD really struggled at school and was very disruptive within the classroom and school have said she is not allowed back next term they also let all the local colleges know and they are refusing to allow DD on to any courses, i know a 16 and a half yr old girl will not be employed and i only can get 15 hrs work a week on just over £6 per hour so i need tax credits to feed DD i know most people on here want there kids to go to univirsity i just want my DD away from the streets at a job or on a college course . Can i appeal to the school to give DD another chance and what courses could you do with those grades.

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OneLieIn · 04/07/2013 12:27

I think you should go and talk to the school with dd about this.

They can't stop other colleges from accepting dd.

And your dd needs to wake up and realise she must sort this out or she is facing a really bad time, no money, no job, no education means not much of a future

noblegiraffe · 04/07/2013 12:30

If she is in Y11 then she has to stay in education or training until the end of the year that she turns 17. Which means presumably that the LA has a duty to provide this for her. I'd get in contact with them and see what they propose.

JakeBullet · 04/07/2013 12:30

Does your daughter have any kind of SN?
Can she read and write adequately?

It sounds like she has struggled massively with school for some reason. What help did she have to help her in school?

It might be worth googling Catch 22 who do lots of work with teenagers to see if they can offer her any support.

orangepudding · 04/07/2013 12:31

I would look at college courses. Maybe she would be happier learning a trade rather than doing an academic course.
Did the school really tell local colleges not accept her, its awful.

morry1000 · 04/07/2013 12:37

Jake Bullet. she has ADHD and struggles with concentration and when she gets frustated will swear at the teacher or other students. She was Excluded 3 times in the last 2 years and the school are just glad she has gone .When she went to the local colleg, The college asked to see her record and when they saw the 3 exclusions one for constant swearing at the Maths teacher, decided that DD was not welcome DD writing is not very clear and she struggles with capital letters in the right places.

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Floralnomad · 04/07/2013 12:43

Unless you live in the back of beyond there must be more than 2 options for education ! Ring the local authority and get some information .

Mosschops30 · 04/07/2013 12:44

What about an access course.

My dd did well at Gcse but is predicted U in AS levels so is leaving to do an access. Far less academic

What does your dd want to do career wise?

JakeBullet · 04/07/2013 12:47

morry, if this is the case then she has been let down badly by the LA. I would be furious with them. My son is autistic with ADHD and his school are hot in getting in support for him when needed.

I'd be making a massive complaint about the fact her difficulties have not been addressed. If she has been excluded three times then it is surely a red flag to them that they need to find different ways f supporting her to access the curriculum.

Have you tried posting on the SN boards as there are some really knowledgeable folk on there who might have good advice.

Also worth googling is the the Children's Law Centre based in Colchester who represent children for free nationwide and who will give you advice about what the law says with regard to your daughter's education up to 18 and how she should be supported.

imnotmymum · 04/07/2013 12:48

Well IMO it sounds like the school as let her down. Was she medically diagnosed with ADHD? They should have things in place to help her access an education I would fight this. You and her need support

morry1000 · 04/07/2013 12:54

Mosschops/Flora My daughter does not know what she wants to do and has no confidence at all and believes that she is worthless i use to tell the school that the swearing at the teachers was because DD felt worthless all they would say is that is not acceptable under any circumstances. We have tried the L.A and they seem to have washed their hands of DD and think that DD is unteachable. The funny thing is aware from School a lot of people comment on how polite she is. School was a disaster from the first day of secondary school. I think she believes she as no skils and is not capable of doing anything and yet deep down is a very nice and scared young adult.

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noblegiraffe · 04/07/2013 12:56

They can't wash their hands of her, legally she has to be in education or training till she's 17.

morry1000 · 04/07/2013 13:05

Jakebullet. When she was in year7and 8 they used to seperate dd and send her to a special class with other kids with difficuties. When yr9 came because of the national curriculum they said" Against their better judgement but because the law forced them to DD had to study for G.C.S.E "s in the 3years she never did 1 bit of homework and i was told by her teachers that when not swearing she would just stare in to space The SENCO Coordinator at the school said " I HAVE 35 OTHER KIDS WITH S.E.N AND I SPEND MOST OF MY TIME DEALING WITH YOUR DD" IM SICK OF HER AND HER PROBLEMS" When i Complained to the Head and deputy i was told by all means you can remove your DD to another school but bear in mind we will send all her records and most schools will not except her.

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JakeBullet · 04/07/2013 13:07

Here morry, the web page for the CORAM legal centre which gives free legal advice. Here.

Also contact Parent Partnership for support. As the parent of a child with ADHD I can only imagine what you are going through with this. You need more support and so does your DD.

morry1000 · 04/07/2013 13:08

THANK YOU Jake bullet will look it up.

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bigTillyMint · 04/07/2013 13:14

OP, it sounds like you and your DD have had a dreadful experience.

In our LA there are large numbers of young people who find school difficult. They move on to other provisions which meet their needs better - surely your LA should have some other provisions?

Could you go to the LA - Parent Partnership, maybe and ask for help?

imnotmymum · 04/07/2013 13:19

Shock at SENCO I would report her

toomuch2young · 04/07/2013 13:19

Look into princes trust they do more vocational based training for young people who struggle with school they are a fantastic charity and get really good result with even very hard to reach young people.
Would anything vocational appeal to her? Hairdressing? Horticulture? Animal care? Beauty? Bricklaying? Are lots of options still available to her.

toomuch2young · 04/07/2013 13:20

princes-trust.org.uk/need_help/courses.aspx

HandMini · 04/07/2013 13:33

Gosh you poor thing. It sounds as if school and special needs provision has let your daughter down badly. I can't add any wisdom as I don't have any children in education yet, but I hope some of the advice on here helps, and that your DD finds something better for next year. At least she has a supportive mum - that will help a lot.

noblegiraffe · 04/07/2013 13:58

Her school sounds shit, the law and national curriculum didn't force your DD to take GCSEs (except maybe maths and English). She could have taken BTECs or done a part time college placement; loads of our kids (normal comp) do hairdressing or childcare or similar.

morry1000 · 04/07/2013 16:17

Noblegiraffe. You right about the school yet ofsted gave it an outstanding inspection report. The school achieves 74% 5 A TO C inc MATHS AND ENGLISH. The school only does G.C.S.E"s and does very few other courses i guess they think my DD brings down their average pass mark. They said that the reason my DD was not permantaly excluded was because the school took DD"s S.E.N in to consideration .

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creamteas · 04/07/2013 18:04

There are lots of training companies that are outside of FE and your DD should be able to get a place on one of them (this is a link to one in the midlands here to give you the idea).

If you ring the National Careers Service they should be able to help direct you to local providers

MonsterBookOfTyRexs · 04/07/2013 18:21

I left school with no gcse's at the age of 15 due to severe bullying.I never used the school as a reference.
I got a job as a care assistant. Completed an nvq 2 and 3 and start uni in Sept.
At 16 I did not ever think I could go to uni.
Good luck to your dd.

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DameEdnasBridesmaid · 05/07/2013 20:11

I would be very surprised if an FE College would not allow your daughter to enrol. I would at the very least go in and get some IAGfrom them.

I work in an FE College and we have lots of students who were disruptive and disaffected at school. College is a different environment and they often thrive there.

A vocational course may be just the thing for her. Whereabouts are you OP?

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