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Help! Moving from California with a DS entering Year 11.

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SaturdaySunday · 03/05/2013 20:16

We are moving over this summer (July/August) and my DS is 15 but will turn 16 in mid-September this year. This puts him entering Y11. We cannot afford to go independent so will be finding a state school.

I had some idea that the secondary school thing there would be hairy, but from another thread am learning just how complicated it really is.

Our son is very bright and performs well on standardized tests but had a rough start as a freshman here this year. Consequently, his transcripts are not stellar and I am assuming he will have to work his butt off since he will be behind the other students in the GSCE. Initially I thought he might be able to start fresh at Y10 but am learning that is not an option in the state system. Again, we can't afford private school.

Any tips on navigating this? It's incredibly hard to figure this out so far away... any thoughts or ideas are appreciated!

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IrritatingInfinity · 10/05/2013 17:02

Forgot to say my last post was in reply to AndreaDawn. Smile

AndreaDawn · 11/05/2013 15:20

IrritatingInfinity......I hear what you are saying but unfortunately Grammar schools are few and far between and we don't have one in our vicinity.

Our experience of the US education system was a fantastic one, we were lucky enough to be in a great ISD and our teachers right from Kindergarten up thru High school were brilliant and dedicated. We have not had the same experience here and we do have a pretty good secondary school by British standards, but it is still no match for what we had in Texas and does not even come close! In year 10 and 11 here, my daughter was doing Math that she had done way back in grade 5 in the US and in all the other core subjects, the learning and teaching was leaps and bounds above what they do here. Reading, writing, spelling and grammar are studied far more extensively, bad spelling was not acceptable in our Texan ISD, so in my experience, the US standard was much higher than your state school in Britain. :)

IrritatingInfinity · 11/05/2013 18:29

I know that there are plenty of great US schools. However, the point I trying to make was that overall the US education system is no better than the UKs. On an anecdotal level there will be a million instances where one system is better than the other but overall there is little difference.
The OECD, Programme for International Student Assessment conducts huge impartial studies comparing students in many developed countries. The US and the UK are very similar. In the last batch of tests in 2009 the UK did slightly better at maths and science while the US did slightly better at English.

Having educated my kids at a number of schools in a number of countries I know that it is perfectly possible to be at a brilliant school but get an awful teacher, or an awful class. It can also work the other way around. It is hard to generalise.

MrsSchadenfreude · 11/05/2013 18:38

You may find that he finds GCSEs like math(s) and English language comparatively easy. My DD is in 8th grade in the American system, we are relocating to UK this summer (but she will continue her education in an American international school at eyewatering expense). I bought her some GCSE practice books in maths, as she is supposed to not be very good at maths (despite scoring 87% in her MAP tests Hmm). She rattled through the standard level one, telling me that she had "done this stuff" in 6th grade and made a good fist of the higher level one. Ditto English language. So depending on how academic your son's current school is, he may not struggle at all. We are transferring DD2 (6th grade) to the UK system, and I don't think she will have a problem.

MrsSchadenfreude · 11/05/2013 18:42

Just saw that AndreaDawn said the same thing about the maths.

MrsSchadenfreude · 11/05/2013 18:54

Also agree with IrritatingInfinity re there not being that much difference between the two systems. But there can be vast differences between schools, the work ethic and results in both countries - DD1's current school is academic and hoofs out kids at the end of 9th grade who aren't going to make the grade academically.

IBMOM · 17/07/2013 13:23

You may be able to afford a Private American school if you sacrifice your lifestyle. If you are coming over because of your DH employment then I'm sure he is paid well as an expat. Yes your DS education may not be covered. Downsize the type of house you rent, do not do any holidays and sacrifice whatever you can and give him the education he deserves. After all, you coming here to the UK is your decision and not his! Sorry to be harsh but you may not know how many parents do that kind of sacrifices for their kids. My children attend an American school in London and I know plenty of parents who are paying the fees by sacrificing their comforts and lifestyle. Hats off to them! Also as your son's university entrance will depend mostly on a GPA , how are you going to achieve this once you go back from a system which does not do that. His work here will not be comparable and will not be converted in a way that does him any favours. You really will be messing with his life if you go ahead with this. So sad to even hear that you were considering such an option.

luxemburgerli · 17/07/2013 14:12

If the OP is an academic family, I assure you it is entirely possible that the DH is not paid all that well! Probably doesn't even get a relocation payment, or any help with visas etc. You really are on your own...

mummytime · 17/07/2013 14:20

Also plenty of US universities recruit from the UK, and don't seem at all bothered about the lack of GPA when I've spoken to them.

lljkk · 22/07/2013 07:48

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