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another Kingsdale thread bites the dust

177 replies

gingeroots · 10/12/2012 16:00

So the whole thread has gone - positive comments ,queries ,critical comments .

Kind of makes posting on internet forums unattractive .

Any pretence of a space where comment and ideas can be exchanged blown .

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gingeroots · 31/01/2013 12:06

I don't really know .

Only that I received a PM from someone and now can't respond .

Message to say that user is deactivated .

How Orwellian is that ?

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amillionyears · 31/01/2013 12:07

In the UK there are several different laws governing speech, on the internet and otherwise.

When Freedom of Speech was discussed on MN, I watched the news about such matters. And each time someone got into trouble about what they had written, it was a different part of the law that they were falling foul of.
I gave up when I had read of 5 different cases, each because of 5 different parts of the law.

gingeroots · 31/01/2013 12:09

I'm sure it's complex .

Sure forum admins have no choice .

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Hovisloaf · 31/01/2013 12:27

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amillionyears · 31/01/2013 12:46

"user is deactivated"
Might the poster have chosen to decativate themselves?

Can I sort of ask why it is being discussed on here

Have just seen you tube.
I dont know anything about the school other than that.

aliasPrickleandJones · 31/01/2013 13:06

'tis me that was deactivated.

amillionyears, I didn't choose to deactivate myself. In fact tried to post this morning and found that I couldn't. No word from Admin. Quite rude I thought.

The point is, I didn't even post anything deflamatory prior to being deactivated. My only recent post in the deleted thread was to agree with someone - but that was enough. It would be useful to know why I was culled. Also I was quite active on EDF over the years. If Admin cared to look, I get quite excited about local issues - CPZ for one.

gingeroots · 31/01/2013 13:11

amillionyears sorry ,must seem a bizarre discussion .

On here because it concerned Kingsdale and posts being deleted .

And I wanted to continue a conversation and couldn't contact the deactivated poster any other way .

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amillionyears · 31/01/2013 13:31

Umm. Am more confused now, but never mind.
Dont know what EDF is [apart from an electric company], or CPZ.

I think the bit that is baffling me the most, is why this Kingsdale stuff is on MN.
There have been local meetings presumably, where things have been talked about, and names, addresses etc exchanged?

gingeroots · 31/01/2013 13:35

EDF = East Dulwich Forum ,forum local to school .

It's on MN because of lack of public discussion .

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Hovisloaf · 31/01/2013 13:38

amilionyears, I think people have resorted to mumsnet because there is no acceptable or available forum otherwise. The Parent's Forum has set rules to say what can be discussed and how and when something can be discussed, and on the East Dulwich Forum, it is definitely deleted. Whilst lots is removed from mumsnet too, there seems to be a slightly more reasonable level of conversation allowed.

aliasPrickleandJones · 31/01/2013 13:42

CPZ = controlled parking zone Grin

Laysy89 · 31/01/2013 13:48

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CarlingBlackMabel · 31/01/2013 13:53

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amillionyears · 31/01/2013 13:57

alias Grin

amillionyears · 31/01/2013 14:02

The East Dulwich Forum. It isnt on MN is it? It is a different seperate forum entirely?

CarlingBlackMabel · 31/01/2013 14:25

amillionyears - yes, it is an entirely separate forum. A local forum for East Dulwich. It has a 'Family Discussions' board, The Family Room, on all aspects of parenting, and covers many of the same topics as MN does.

MN is often discussed in the EDF Family Room because people often use more than one parenting forum. Likewise it is not surprising that people on a MN thread about a school in East Dulwich (ish) would also use the EDF.

amillionyears · 31/01/2013 14:59

So Laysy is talking about the EDF forum? Where they went to see the administator, she is not talking about a MN administrator [actually, not sure that one exists?]

amillionyears · 31/01/2013 15:01

fwiw, I think the problem with all of this is, that online forums count as publications?
So, it is counted as the written word.
So different to say, a public meeting. Where things are said. Though I suppose someone could sue for slander, because of what is said in one of those meetings?

FlouncingMintyy · 31/01/2013 15:02

Laysy is not talking about being deactivated from Mumsnet, no.

Hovisloaf · 31/01/2013 15:42

also amillionyears if you published the fact that you were having a meeting, which you would have to, then the powers that be in the school would attend and that would create more problems such as being told you are being defamatory or guilty of slander.

amillionyears · 31/01/2013 15:58

Oh. I am used to things being on a smaller scale.

But public meetings are being held all the time, about this and that.

There must be rules. I dont personally hear of problems to do with defamation or slander.
Else there would never be public meetings at all?

but acknowledge that I am no expert.

Has there never been a public meeting about all of this?

Laysy89 · 31/01/2013 17:16

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amillionyears · 31/01/2013 17:44

I am sorry. I do not understand.

psammyad · 31/01/2013 17:51

CarlingBlackMabel - I was quite shocked to see your post had been deleted (as I have been with a few others actually) especially as your 2 posts taken together were - as you say above- a plea for KD not to be unjustly undermined.

Annoyed with myself for not saving your post when I read it - I'm as curious as anyone to know what exactly is it is we're not meant to be saying so that we can actually carry on a discussion.

I've been trying to make only one kind of point per post so that only one post would be lost if it fell foul of the 'rules' but that will make discussion quite unwieldy...

CarlingBlackMabel · 31/01/2013 17:52

People can't be holding a public meeting every time they want to ask for people's views on how well a school would suit thier child, or does any one know why the results at a particular school are sky high or dipping.

And if people see something about a school in the press, they may well want to find out what other parents think and will their Yr 7 be OK in the GCSE years etc etc without calling a public meeting.

The problem is that when parents discuss these things on the internet, by this one school, the school leans on the forum adminstrators to delete posts.

This is partly understandable because there has been internet coverage that has not been in the school's interest, and partly extremely frustrating because people with no axe to grind, nor malicious intent are also being deleted and banned and de-activated.

amillionyears, is your interest in passing or because you want to discuss some aspect of Kingsdale school?

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