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Eton college - what type of boys ?

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bulletpoint · 15/10/2012 21:54

I asked this in the shrewsbury thread but dont want to derail the main subject.

I just wanted to know what type of things they look for generally in boys, ive read that they like musical boys but does that mean everyone must play an instrument and at what grade assuming you are not applying for a scholarship etc. Do boys all have to be in first teams in sports ? Do boys all have to have been prefects at their previous school ? Thanks.

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IndridCold · 11/05/2014 11:18

Yes, and she may be wanting to choose between the rarified atmosphere of College and the more 'normal' environment of an Oppidan house.

That's why I asked her to clarify her original question. (I assume it's a question, although it lacks a ?)

summerends · 11/05/2014 12:03

Well all may be revealed but as you say it could have been a rhetorical question.

chimera1 · 13/05/2014 17:07

The question was aimed at parents who's son are in "college". My son spent a week in Evans house during the election exams and he thoroughly enjoyed the relaxed atmosphere, on his return he wanted to opt for a normal boarding house.

summerends · 13/05/2014 20:45

Chimerae others will know better than I but my impression from friends of my DS is that decision had to be made when filling in the application form. Are you still able to change your mind without losing the scholarship or are n't you bothered about the scholarship?

IndridCold · 13/05/2014 22:06

chimera does your son have a conditional place at Eton with a place in a 'normal' house? If not, as a Kings Scholar, he will have to go into College or not go at all.

peteneras is the person you need to ask about College life.

peteneras · 14/05/2014 12:56

All very knowledgeable and wise words, both summerends and IndridCold.

But first things first. Aren’t you aware or have you forgotten, OP, what you’ve signed up to when you and your DS first applied to take the KS exams earlier this year? Here is a reminder.

As you can see clearly, right from the beginning in Question ‘A’ of the KS Examinations Application Form it asks you and your son whether he is competing for a King’s Scholarship, and thereby a place in College, giving up his house place if successful? This decision cannot be altered!

OK, so your son had been at Evans for a week and liked it. I wonder what he would say if he had been to College for a week instead? It’s just a testament to all of Eton’s houses that they are all absolutely fantastic. Please note, potential Eton parents who ask the same question which Eton house to go for, really there is not much between them.

Except College of course, which I’ll write more about later.

chimera1 · 14/05/2014 22:24

Thank you all for your words of wisdom. My son has finally decided to accept the KS and go to college. Can any one shed light on how college is different from the other house?

IndridCold · 15/05/2014 00:18

The food is loads better.

thegambler · 15/05/2014 00:27

I know my place.

grovel · 15/05/2014 11:54

I'm sure the food in College is good but I've got to say that the food in DS's house was also fantastic. The chef (early thirties) had worked for seven years in a Michelin starred restaurant. When he and his wife had their first baby he decided that he couldn't/wouldn't live with the kamikaze hours demanded by a top restaurant. So they moved to Eton, got a nice flat in the house and were happy. He also taught the boys to cook on a tight budget (in preparation for university) . Brilliant.

IndridCold · 15/05/2014 15:05

grovel that sounds lovely! A friend of mine, whose DS has a place for 2015, had lunch in one of the catering houses and was NOT impressed - but they are Italian so they may have had higher expectations Smile.

My DS complains constantly about Bekynton food, and claims that when there is a big dinner in College some of the younger Collegers get booted over to Bekynton, and they always comment on how much better College food is.

I have eaten in Bekynton a couple of times, and thought it was fine, and when we went to a house dinner the food was excellent.

peteneras · 16/05/2014 21:16

To all intents and purposes, College is just another house just like any of the other 24 Oppidan houses or ‘normal houses’ if you like. Once upon a time, some 600 years ago, there was only one house at Eton and it’s called, College. Given its unique history, today College is however, the most illustrious and prestigious house, well revered throughout the world and is the only house that is situated right inside the School and therefore, is most convenient from where to access all parts of the School, be it the classrooms, music rooms, science and language laboratories, the Farrer Theatre, the playing fields, the swimming pool, both College and School libraries, College Chapel etc.

Going back to its foundation in the 15th century, there are some ceremonial processes that go on at College each year that the bulk of Etonians or their parents are totally unaware of. When a new KS first enters the School, he undergoes a ceremony that officially admits him to College. For example, this certificate written in Latin, hung on a wall in my home office has pride of place not only because it denotes DS’s admittance to College but officiated and signed by the then Provost of Eton, Sir Eric Anderson, one of the UK’s greatest educators; a man who had educated two British Prime Ministers, Tony Blair at Fettes (Housemaster), David Cameron at Eton (Head Master), and a future British King, Prince Charles at Gordonstoun.

College is where all the brilliant minds and geniuses gather under one roof. Even the very youngest on entry at age 13 has the intelligence equivalent (or more) to that of a First Year Oxford undergraduate. It is hardly surprising therefore, to see these ultra brilliant boys go on to achieve greatness in later life. Very quickly, the likes of W E Gladstone, Harold Macmillan (Prime Ministers), J M Keynes (Economist), George Orwell* (Writer) to name but a few, were all products of College. The list is too long but for the present, just watch out for Boris Johnson, the Mayor of London.

This thread asks ‘what type of boys’ at Eton College. Whether it’s boys at Eton College (Oppidans) or boys at Eton College (Collegers), except for the grey matter at the head department, they are all the same as boys from Winchester College or The Grange Community College. As you can see, College is no more different from any other Oppidan house when it comes to boys behaving like teenagers - yes, pillow fights, guitars and all. . .

Still on tradition, around the end of February each year, Collegers are given money on ‘Threepenny Day’ in a short ceremony after lunch. A KS will collect a total of 5 threepenny bits over the 5 years he spends at College. The coins themselves are not of any high commercial value but to the scholars and their families, these coins are priceless as far as value goes. They are the tangible mementos of a Colleger’s time and achievements at Eton and representing a piece of ancient Etonian history, a prized possession to be treasured for posterity and to be shown to friends and family alike.

Much have been said about the food at College Hall where Collegers dine. For sure, I can tell you the one thing that my DP was always eagerly looking forward to each time a visit was due at Eton’s is the food at College Hall. Not being funny when I say this, food at College Hall can seriously embarrass even the kitchens of many 5-star hotels.

And if all else fails, if only to avoid the mad traffic jams that happen each time the School breaks up for exeat and term holidays, the easy reach and ample parking spaces within the compounds of College should be the deal breaker. I have often wondered how did Oppidan parents manage at such a stressful time.

  • Can anyone point out where is George Orwell?
summerends · 16/05/2014 22:09

Peteneras, as you know I hate disagreeing with you Wink and you have gone to a lot of trouble with your post. However, so as not scare off any prospective applicants, even at 17 /18 many Eton scholars are not the equivalent of a first year Oxbridge undergraduate and more than some, however well prepared, don't actually get places when they apply to Oxbridge (because they are competing with others who have huge raw talent). However the Eton scholars will have certainly been taught and stimulated in a way to make the most of their level of ability.

peteneras · 17/05/2014 00:17

summerends, this is an open democratic forum and why do you ‘hate’ disagreeing with me? Confused I must be mad to think or want everyone to agree with me. But actually, you are not disagreeing with me per se, you are actually disagreeing with an Oxford Admissions Tutor no less. See here for yourself what this Oxford don has to say about the King’s Scholarship papers at Eton and again reiterates it here 16 months later.

I hope you are joking that even at 17/18 many Eton scholars are not the equivalent of a first year Oxbridge undergraduate. How did you come to this conclusion? Is it because not all KS’s succeed in getting to Oxbridge? And is Oxbridge the be all and the end all? Have you looked at recent world university standings lately? What do the bulk of ‘successful’ Oxbridge entrants read at these two universities - Old Norse or Classics? Or is it Divinity and History? Pity all the dentists in the world (some actually earn much more than doctors) who never did go to Oxbridge. And who are these ‘raw talents’ who succeeded in getting to Oxbridge anyway?

summerends · 17/05/2014 08:25

Peteneras I think you are confusing Oxbridge-style discursive questions that are asked in the scholarship exam with a 13 year old boy actually being of that level in his given answers in the various examined subjects.
Some boys will of course have that spark of originality required and in maths perhaps be nearing that level.
I completely agree with you about Oxbridge not being the be end and be all, it's like any of the schools discussed on these forums, Oxford and Cambridge suits some people but not others.

gymboywalton · 17/05/2014 15:44

rich boys-very well off ones.

sunshinecity17 · 18/05/2014 13:25

what type of boys ?

Rich Ones!!

Gho · 30/08/2015 06:22

Hello,

I read your messages about Eton life with great interest, thank you for sharing.

My son is 11, have had a conditional offer, at a stage of choosing a house. May I ask in which house is your Ds, that has that wonderful chef?

Another boy in my Ds' year group had already chosen his house (older in the year group, hence started 6 mths earlier), we happen to favour the same housemaster without realising he'd had a place there. Will we still have a chance to get in the same house, given that the boys are from the same prep on the same year?

In a nutshell, do you know whether a Eton Housemaster can take two boys from the same prep in a same year?

What would be your recommendation house/housemaster-wise for an all round boy, who is really fit physically, not Alfa male though, but gentle, resilient & versatile?

Thank you and looking forward to hearing from you.
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Gho · 30/08/2015 06:35

Wonderful chef question meant @ gravel.

BigGreenOlives · 30/08/2015 06:35

I'd start a new thread of your own as you'll get better advice

Gho · 30/08/2015 07:57

Thank you @ biggreenolives.
Will do..

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