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Schools that post NOTHING about their GCSE results on their web pages ....

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TalkinPeace2 · 24/08/2012 17:30

DCs school has put up fairly detailed data and stated that they will be asking about the Eng Lang marks and accepting that staying in the same place is just fine.

My catchment school on the other hand - Zilch. Nothing. Diddly Squat.

Which of course speaks volumes I'd have thought.

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clam · 24/08/2012 17:39

What do you mean, staying in the same place is just fine?

TalkinPeace2 · 24/08/2012 17:43

clam
Results rising year on year is a thing of the recent past.
It did not happen before 1990.
It will happen no longer.

Therefore for a comp school like my DCs, getting a certain percentage through % A* - C inc Eng & Maths should be a benchmark, but that proportion can only have risen with grade inflation.

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alistron1 · 24/08/2012 17:56

Am I being thick? I don't understand what you are saying/asking here? Why does the school not publishing the data speak volumes? Is it because you think they haven't met the 40% benchmark?

OddBoots · 24/08/2012 18:00

My DS's school very rarely update the public website with anything, especially in the holidays but they do put things on another passworded site for parents and students, they have done fine, nothing astounding but not bad either.

TalkinPeace2 · 24/08/2012 18:00

alistron
Yes. Absolutely.
Last year they got 44% on GCSE or equiv. 32% five GCSEs and 0% EBACC
They are a sponsored academy.

This report from last year makes interesting reading.
www.buckingham.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/GCSE2011.pdf

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DiscoDaisy · 24/08/2012 18:08

My DD's school haven't put anything on their website yet.
The local paper reported that 91% got A* to C grades of which 65% was in 5 subjects including eng and Maths
I wouldn't presume that because nothing was on the website that her school has anything to hide I just think that nobody has updated the website yet!
( shrugs shoulders and wanders off)

TalkinPeace2 · 24/08/2012 18:12

Disco
then they have reported to the paper - that is fine.
My local paper shows the school as not responding to queries.

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lljkk · 24/08/2012 18:16

Wow, pushy area. I just checked the 4 nearest state secondaries & not one has any notice up about their GCSE results (yet). Local lot includes one academy. But the school results are all in an online article I easily found, so I guess they are talking to media.

TheOriginalSteamingNit · 24/08/2012 18:19

Why are you looking at the other schools website? Just for gloating/sneering purposes?

TalkinPeace2 · 24/08/2012 18:29

Its my catchment - I want to know what is going on as they walk past my house to their £13.6 building as the catchment boundaries will move soon and it MASSIVELY affects the value of my house (by around 30% at present). Less gloat than worry.

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noblegiraffe · 24/08/2012 18:50

"Results rising year on year is a thing of the recent past."

The percentage increase in passes for O level Mathematics from 1952-1960 was around 100% and for A level Mathematics over 150%

Also, if you're going to use norm-referenced grading rather than criterion-referenced grading, percentage of entries passing can't increase, even if the subsequent populations do better in the exams. This is nonsensical.

JustGettingByMum · 24/08/2012 19:10

DCs school had a falling out with the local paper aa few years ago o didn't respond to questions about their results. Perhaps yours has had a similar experience?

Knowsabitabouteducation · 24/08/2012 20:12

My school is 100% A-C and the website hasn't been updated (which I do find infuriating). The good thing is that all the local papers have the news on their websites.

In our case, the person who updates the website is away on holiday (family wedding in Australia).

BackforGood · 24/08/2012 20:26

Both my dcs schools have pretty good "headline rates" for their GCSEs, but neither have amended their websites since the results came out. I wouldn't expect them to, tbh.

BeingFluffy · 24/08/2012 21:19

IMO results should only be available to current and prospective families. DD1's school publishes all results in their September newsletter and as part of the prospectus in September.

I am glad to see that very few results seem to have been contributed to the unofficial tables in the press. I feel that publishing the information as a table, grossly distorts what constitute success, feeds the 11 plus frenzy and ultimately the pressure on the young.

Incidentally I am not jealous - DD1's school has been a top scorer in recent years - but that is because it only admits very clever girls - end of story.

BigBoobiedBertha · 24/08/2012 21:27

DS1's school hasn't updated their website for results but the home page at least hasn't been updated for months.

It wouldn't have occurred to me to be bothered about it or any other school in the area. I only looked because I am nosy. Don't forget it is still the school holidays. The teachers aren't offically back yet and I doubt they have more than a skeleton admin staff. Who exactly is going to rush to make this posting? Surely the people who need to know, those who sat the exams, already know the details.

Personally I am more interested in what the new head is going to do when he starts in September than the results under the old head who left last term.

TalkinPeace2 · 24/08/2012 21:29

no 11+ here in Hampshire

and failing schools with 15% persistent truancy rates are an issue for the whole area in which they are located ....

any school which is funded by every taxpayer should be accountable to them.

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captainhastings · 24/08/2012 21:35

We have not published our results on our website and ours are around 80% even after the English fiasco .

Are you really concerned about the affect the school has on your house prices ? To think they say society is dead.

BigBoobiedBertha · 24/08/2012 21:40

If it is anything like the SATs, the schools get the results, give them out to the children but then they spend a lot of time looking at the statistics, querying some and sending papers for remarking. Whatever the marks were today isn't necessarily what the final results will be. No school would rush to publish interim results I wouldn't have thought.

And even if the results were final with no appeals or queries, I don't think that anybody, other than the children themselves need to know the results this instant they come out. It can wait.

BeingFluffy · 24/08/2012 22:43

I live in an inner London borough. I don't think the publishing of GCSE results on the website makes the rather successful local catholic boys school any more accountable to me than my DD2's slightly less successful comp. The boys school is socially selective as my DD1's super selective (far away) is intellectually (and socially) selective.

I think making results into a contest undermines the efforts of schools in deprived areas or those with less academic pupils. Yes, I pay tax, everyone in the country pays tax (VAT etc). I agree that schools must be accountable ( especially new academies) but I don't think putting GCSE results on the website does that.

noblegiraffe · 24/08/2012 22:47

Results are put on the internet in the league tables for full public consumption once they've all been ratified, so not sure what the problem is.

Chubfuddler · 24/08/2012 22:50

You're concerned about your local schools gcse results because of a potential negative effect on the value of your house?

Fuck. I'm actually stunned by that.

TalkinPeace2 · 24/08/2012 22:50

I need to clarify here.... the schools are still digesting their results.
The C/D issue with Eng Lang is causing huge hassles
BUT
its a matter of seconds for a school to put a pat on back congrats message to pupils and parents on a website even with little or no data in it

but the school in question has removed ALL mention of results and results day from their site.
that must be a tad disheartening for the pupils who HAVE done well that their school is clearly the outlier
even the twin academy has told the local paper a few numbers ....

they will NEVER do "well" - but they can be expected to at least match what they did last year - surely

NB Gove wants more and more schools to become sponsored academies like this one .....

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ATruthUniversallyAcknowledged · 24/08/2012 22:52

Honestly? The IT team probably just haven't bothered updating the website. No drama, no conspiracy, just an IT person who is lounging on a beach in Egypt (which may, or may not give you a clue about the attitude towards the results)

FWIW, I've just checked the website of the school I work at and there are lots of photos of pupils collecting results and looking delighted, but no actual written statement about them (and ours are worth celebrating as they will probably save us from going into special measures)

ATruthUniversallyAcknowledged · 24/08/2012 22:54

they can be expected to at least match what they did last year - surely

Not necessarily - different pupils, different abilities, different expectations. All schools have some year groups that simply won't match the achievements of the previous cohort.