any teachers around - AQA english gcse

[bruffin]

DS got his gcse results today

for AQA english he got

ENG02 31/D looks like 31/60
ENG1H 86/B 86/120
ENL03 72/C 72/120

but this doesnt tie up with the grade boundaries on the AQA website

I worked it out as % and it seems to make sense for the eng02 and enl03 but
eng1h he got 71.66 % which appears to give him an A as you need 55/80
for an A which is 68%

can anyone explain

Just found this
which makes more sense

why are there two different sets of figures for what appears the same exam?

Lots about this on the news - essentially the exam boards have changed the goal posts between January and now and not told anyone.

www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/9494605/GCSE-results-2012-row-erupts-over-marking-of-English-exam-papers.html

Another here with similar queries - also about AQA English, but also about OCR Physics and Edexcel Citizenship. Will try for a remark if the results are close to the boundary but I really can't tell - and I'm hopeless at maths which doesn't help.

This was language

ENG02 54/60
ENG1H 74/120
ENL03 89/120

This was literature

47101H 61/80
47102H 62/70
47103 45/50

These marks come under a UMS heading.

In OCR Physics

A331H -36/50
A332H - 30/50
A333H - 63/100
A340A - 77/100

And this was Edexcel Citizenship

53S03B 52/60
5CS04 66/90

Thanks in advance and a for anybody who can explain it to me in simple terms

Thanks
He is dyslexic so English is never going to be his best subject but i think he was hoping for a B, he got a B in his lit, so pleased with that.
The rest of his results are good so it wont make any difference to his 6th form choices.

if you look at my second link it has the boundary marks for AQA
The english language is a total 217 which is a B, an A is 240

the english lit is 168 which is an A, an A* is 180.

Edexcel has gone up between 4 and 10 marks at the C borderline for English/Eng Lang, depending on the unit.

It depends whether you are looking at raw scores or UMS. UMS is always 100 and this is usually what grades are worked out on (I am secondary, but not English). There is usually something on website t shows how to convert raw scores into UMS.

Useful, thanks, but still confused.
Ds gutted. Was predicted A but only got C for AQA English lang. We haven't been given a breakdown of the mark by school. All we have is:

AQA GCSE/B ENG1H English Unit 1 Tier H 82 C

Without the breakdown of units/modules the AQA site makes no sense. Is 82 near the boundary for a B?

Thanks Bruffin - just wondered whether it was worth a remark or not. He's dropped a grade on his predictions and English was one of his few leading lights - oh that the rest had been as good!

think so, looks like 84 was the boundary for a B

Thanks Bruffin.

It's the speaking and listening that dragged ds score, which I don't understand. He is normally very articulate.

If the Speaking and Listening (Unit 3) is like the one that we do with Edexcel, 60 of the UMS points will be for actual speaking and listening (usually a presentation, a debate and a dramatic piece), but the other 60 will have involved two tasks - a reading one analysing the spoken voice, and a writing task for the spoken voice - a script or speech, for example.

None of the Physics exam marks (the first three) are close to the higher boundary.

A340A is the coursework.

Here are the boundaries.

MrsCobbitt, I can only answer re OCR Physics which DD2 took.

For the first and second modules in your list , the UMS boundaries are 45/50 A*, 40/50 A and 35/50 B,

For the third the boundaries are 90/100 A*, 80/100 A , 70/100 B and 60/100 C

and the same for the 4th coursework module.

Ahhh just seen Fallen Madonna beat me to it...

Thanks loveis - DS is normally very good at that sort of thing. He won a scholarship partly on his ability to present and speak about his subject.

Speaking and Listening is internally assessed, bruffin - so the options are that the boundary moves have affected your dc or that the school had their marks adjusted down by the moderator. Worth finding out whether that is the case - the school should know.

We are off on holiday tomorrow, so don't have a chance to sort it out until we get back.

DS has just been to a results party and all his peers there were disappointed with their (AQA) English results. They're top set kids, with a first class teacher, so I'm wondering what, if anything, the school will do about it. DS got an A in Language, which he's fine with, but was one mark off an A for literature. We're considering asking for it to be re-marked. All his coursework has been higher than a B and the teacher knows her stuff, so I'd be surprised if she's been over-marking. It will have been externally validated anyway.

Not sure if there's any point really. But it's tough on the kids, who've worked hard all through the course, to have the goalposts shifted at the last minute.

clam the problem this year is that even if we appeal against English results they are unlikely to change. It hasn't been a marking issue but a boundary issue - the number of marks needed has gone up by an unprecedented amount, and if those boundaries were to be changed it would affect the whole country. So, individuals close to the borderline might get over, but many pupils will have missed out by seven marks, for example, and that is unlikely to be altered. Your DC might be lucky, and I would push for a remark on the exam component, but whole group change is probably not going to happen.

It is not a marking issue - it is a boundary issue. Those are set by the boards. And by Micky Gove, despite what he claims.