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Thinking of career change to Design Technology Teacher. Advice Please.

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Migsy1 · 23/04/2012 17:15

I'm seriously considering a career change to a Food Technology teacher. It seems that I have all the necessary qualifications to get onto a PGCE. My business has suffered due to the economic climate and I am bored of what I have been doing for the last 20 years anyway. I have an office based job and I never wanted to sit in an office all day. I want to do something more interactive and lively. I help out at Cubs and enjoy it and want to do something more worthwhile than trying to make money for rich people (which is what I do now).
I'm wondering what other people's experiences of going into teaching late in life is.

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cricketballs · 23/04/2012 18:12

teaching late in life with all the experience you can bring to the classroom is fantastic; there are some points I would suggest you think about....

  1. have you been into schools (the good and the bad!) to actually experience what the reality is now?
  2. are you sure that you would be happy suddenly being the bottom of the ladder after you have been your own boss?
  3. the number of vacancies for your subject are very low...would you be able to secure a post after training?
Migsy1 · 23/04/2012 19:10

Thanks cricketballs I have emailed 3 local schools and asked to be a volunteer so hopefully that will help me decide if I can work with kids (all inner city comps).
Being at the bottom of the ladder would not be great but as I would be in a completely different environment to what I am in now, I think I would be able to cope.
The Teaching Agency says that Design and Technology is a shortage subject and bursaries are offered. I probably could do Geography but would prefer to do Food Tech. I have a friend who teaches Food Tech and she thought it would be a good idea for me to go for it. She didn't mention a shortage of jobs but I will ask her again.

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MakesCakesWhenStressed · 23/04/2012 19:18

Just fyi - the kind of kids who go to extra curricular activities like cubs can be very very different from the kinds of kids you find in schools, as my dh found to his cost. Teaching nearly killed him and our marriage even though he enjoyed volunteering with young people. Try some classroom experience before you put all your eggs in one basket. Hth

Migsy1 · 23/04/2012 19:21

Yes, will definitely do some voluntary work at a school!

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cricketballs · 23/04/2012 19:59

there are currently only 26 jobs nationwide for this area (link here).

The issue you have is that DT is wide ranging and therefore Food is only one part of the current curriculum at KS3 and is a limited option subject due to the amount of students you can have in a class. The future however looks even darker for this area of study as the review of the secondary curriculum is not favourable in its suggestions.

One big issue is also parents and league tables! DT subjects are not classed as academic (despite the amount of work actually needed to achieve a good grade) so a lot of parents dismiss it; it is also not part of the Ebacc........

Migsy1 · 23/04/2012 20:57

Thanks. Will check that link. The PGCE I want to do includes textiles too.

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Migsy1 · 24/04/2012 13:37

cricketballs I've just read the proposed review of the National Curriculum. Yes, not good for DT. Does anyone know when decisions will be made? The paper I read was dated December 2011.

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cricketballs · 24/04/2012 19:05

The new curriculum will be in force for teaching 2014 from the last indication that we were given (here)

It looks bad for many subjects, not just DT, unless you are one of the 'academic' ones for the Ebacc...... lets just forget every child who is unable to achieve A*-C in one of these magic subjects and throw them to the gutter or those who do not want to follow a purely academic path Hmm

Migsy1 · 24/04/2012 19:51

I can't see the logic in this! There are plenty of non-academic kids out there and surely educating children about food might save the NHS money in the long run. This seems whimsical to me and could change with the next Government. Who knows? Don't we want Britain to be a leader in design and innovation too? Crazy.

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cricketballs · 24/04/2012 20:00

join the army of us who are fighting Gove with every breath!

Migsy1 · 25/04/2012 10:56

Well, I think I will join you. I'm making my application right now :)

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cricketballs · 25/04/2012 16:16

good luck!

theroseofwait · 25/04/2012 23:17

I'm a Food teacher and at the moment I wouldn't recommend it. There are no jobs around and with the e-bacc kids aren't opting for Food like they did. I've spent a lot of time teaching PSHE, RE and Citizenship to make up my timetable over the past few years and this coming year is expected to be a whole lot worse. The textiles course has just gone over to the Art department to save money.

I'm also finding it harder to get kids to bring ingredients in, I suspect due to the financial climate. Then you have kids not taking part properly which is an instant Ofsted inadequate. I'm really not enjoying it as there's no job security and the workload can be hideous. And if you've no technician (getting rarer all the time) expect to spend a lot of time in the supermarket or washing up!

Migsy1 · 26/04/2012 07:48

theroseofwait The 2 Food Tech teachers I know are really enthusiastic about my plans and both immediately said "go for it!" What sort of school do you work in? I live in Manchester where lots of the schools are not academic and I wonder if those schools would have more kids willing to do Food Tech. I imagine that grammar schools would not promote the subject but surely it would be more popular in an inner city comp.
Thoughts welcome. I have the qualifications to do a geography pgce but food is what I am interested in.

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theroseofwait · 28/04/2012 00:58

Lower down the school it's not always that bad- but GCSE is a nightmare, the kids just don't want to do the big project. We've moved to Catering from this year for that reason. Unfortunately, it's me that's copped for finishing the Food Tech course with the Y11s and it's been horrendous.

I work in a biggish comp, not overly academic, and we've had more than a few take Food because they think it's going to be easy and just 'cooking.'
Come the Controlled Assessment they have a hell of a shock.

Our NQT started in September and she's thinking about leaving teaching already. Don't forget, you see about 250-300 kids a week. In technology at KS3 it's usually taught on a 'carousel' so every 6 -8 weeks your class will change. For every child you teach at any one time, you have to know their current level, their target level, what they need to do to get to their target from where they are now, whether they have FSM, are LAC, G and T or have any SEN. If so, you need to know what intervention is taking place and what your part is. Every single one of them needs to be enagaged at all times, so if you have a lesson like me on Tuesday where 10 y9s didn't bring their ingredients then you're goosed.

And no, you can't just provide ingredients because nobody has any money, and if you don't have a technician you'll have to do the shopping, store it, measure it out and charge a token payment for it which will need collecting and handing to finance. I quite often can be found in Tesco at 10.30 pm shopping for school, and that's after a parents or governors meeting and a day's work.

Admittedly, I've been doing this for 12 years and I'm tired and a little bit bored, but everyone seems to think we have an easy job 'just teaching kids to make buns', and yet it's getting harder every year. Assuming there will be a next year because parents are talking kids into doing the e-bacc and I know lots of D and T departments are having to make people redundant.

I openly admit I really don't care if little Freddie is hitting a level 7 for D and T, I just want him to be able to cook something safe, tasty and nutritious for himself and his family. Not whether he designed his dish using a sharp pencil and can explain why what he has designed is suitable for his target market and how it would be packaged. And don't forget you need evidence of all of this, which needs light touch marking every other lesson and milestone marking every 6 weeks. I repeat, for 250-300 kids.

Whatever you decide, good luck, and I'm assuming you'll go to Didsbury, which is where I trained and the course was brilliant!! Just think carefully about what comes after!!

Migsy1 · 28/04/2012 15:14

Theroseofwait Thanks for the advice. Crikey! Pupil rotation sounds difficult and kids not bringing in the ingredients must be extremely frustrating. I do understand that there is a theoretic side to it - I did O-level, A-Level and BA Home Economics and I left the subject because I was sick of people thinking that I had a degree in cookery. I'm old enough now not to care what people think and I know that the nerdy career path that I took is not making me happy anymore.

I think I've got some classroom experience sorted out now so I'll see what I learn from that. Hopefully, I'll still be keen!

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Migsy1 · 30/04/2012 13:36

I've withdrawn the food tech application and applied to be a geography teacher. I decided that I'd have a better chance of getting a job / better salary with geography. Hardly any places left though now, so might be too late :(

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