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Talk to me about DS going to University: yay or nay?

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IDK · 25/01/2012 09:33

DS is in Year12 doing humanities subjects. He has no idea what he wants to do for a living. He is intelligent but not academic eg for one of his GCSE he got a D for coursework because he didn't apply himself but got A* in the exam. He is a strong character; a leader; a persuader. I can see him doing a sales or negotiating job. I can't see him being a grey suit.

In the past I would have encouraged him to go to university so he has three years to grow up and find himself but now that tuition fees are so high I am changing my mind. Unless you know that you are aiming for a job that only takes graduates, does going to University make sense any more?

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iseenodust · 31/01/2012 21:48

IDK Seems like the students of Manchester Univ agree with you and the university is acting on it by cutting the number of students. I haven't got a link but think it has been widely reported in the media.

I appreciate the need for students to develop thinking, research capabilities etc. It just seems for many at the moment the balance isn't struck.

cory · 01/02/2012 13:38

Agree that 4 hours seems inadequate: our students would be getting 3/4 hours per module and be encouraged to make individual appointments at least twice per semester for advice and feedback.

But as for the workload, it would be far easier and less time consuming for me to deliver 12 hours of classroom teaching and test the students on what I taught than to teach for 3 hours/module and then have to support the students to write good essays.

As for what they get out of it:

what a conscientious student who makes the most of his/her opportunities will learn from me (through seminars, email tuition, individual tuition by appointment, feedback on essays, material put up on blackboard etc etc) is:

how to work through large quantities of material

how to come up with good questions to ask of that material

how to organise their questions

how to search the material to find answers

how write their results up into good interesting prose

This presupposes that they have the time to try and make mistakes and have them assessed and try again. That would be a lot of training for one employer to offer.

Dh works in an area where about half the workers are university graduates and the other half are trained on the job. While there is no difference when they are out dealing with customers, back in the office it is invariably the graduates who end up doing the writing up. It is far harder for his boss to find enough work to do for those people who did not come to the job with any previous writing training.

IDK · 02/02/2012 09:54

Thanks for this Cory. Any more insights from anyone else?

I shall show this to DS when he is in a receptive mood ... maybe some time in 2014?Grin

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