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If the secondary schools in your area are 11-16 only..

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roisin · 17/01/2012 19:31

If the secondary schools in your area are 11-16 only, do you know what is happening about extending statutory provision to age 17?

Current yr10 students have to stay in full time education until they are 17. But I don't understand where they are going to go!

In my town there are 11-16 schools, plus a sixth form college, plus an FE college.

As far as I am aware none of the above desire the former NEETS, who have no desire to be in school in yr11 let alone staying on longer. So who is going to get the privilege of housing all the extra students? The school or one of the colleges?

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LineRunner · 17/01/2012 19:35

The colleges; and/or the schools convert to academies with sixth forms.

upatdawn · 17/01/2012 19:44

Full time education isn't just A levels, so colleges would have to take on extra students. Apprenticeships also fall under education IIRC so employers would take some of them too.

MaureenMLove · 17/01/2012 19:52

The trend around here, seems to be for a much higher percentage of students to stay at school already, so many of our schools have invested in extending their 6th forms.

When I started at my school 5 years ago, the 6th form was about 25 students. This year we have 124, I believe and interviews have just started for September 2012 and there are 190 internal applicants alone.

In our borough and not too distant surrounding area, we appear to have enough space for the next few years. We have a Haberdashers Academy just built too, so we have a whole new secondary to accommodate.

(My Head Teacher, btw, still thinks there'll be a turn around on it anyway!)

startail · 17/01/2012 19:57

I've wondered this too.
Only one local school has a sixth-form and there are two collages.
Can't see where the money is going to come from for them to expand.
Large rural area, I know pupils already get up at stupid o'clock to get to the school sixth-form. Students must also have long journeys to the collages. I just can't see pupils itching to leave school at 14 bothering to turn up.

sashh · 18/01/2012 04:20

The FE colleges.

They already take groups of.................er ................ well basically the kids that the school want to offload for one day a week. You can go to an FE college at 14, but it is mostly for one course with the rest of the education being at school.

For more practical students a year spent heairdressing / cooking / learning nail art / rebuilding old cars college can be a breath of fresh air.

IMHO more 14-16 year olds should be in college, the schools have to force them through GCSEs for the league tables. The kids hate it, lots of teachers hate teaching these groups as a society we end up with a group of bored kids who think they are useless and can't see their own potential because they have failed GCSEs

mummytime · 18/01/2012 05:13

My local schools have sixth forms, the highest performing one is adding a "foundation year" for less academic students. However the least academic will still be going to the FE colleges, and/or doing some day release from jobs. The FE college regularly advertises on the local radio for course for the NEETs, but we don't have any NEETs around here anyhow.

maypole1 · 18/01/2012 10:18

What happens to those who are pregnant and those who want to join the arm which I believe you can do at 16

It's not going work some schools are so bad they shouldn't have a school let alone a sixth form

What about those who are living inderpandant from their parents and simply will not go at 15 I was living in a hostel inderpandant of my parents and I would not have gone they wouldn't of been able to use imprisoning my parent as bait it would of made me more determined not to go as I hated my parents and would only to happy to see them go to jail

LineRunner · 18/01/2012 19:32

The rule will be education, or training, or training on the job. We used to call it 'day release' for apprentices.

I have no idea what the Tories want to happen to a married young woman at age 16 or 17 with a child or children.

The armed forces train their own.

TalkinPeace2 · 18/01/2012 22:23

THe whole of Hampshire is based on 11-16 and colleges
the non academic colleges will probably pick up that slack as the schools do not have the space to.

mummytime · 18/01/2012 22:41

Sorry btw when I said "we don't have any NEETs around here" I meant we don't have many.
Pregnant school girls under 16 are still supposed to be educated, and there are systems in place (in the dark ages when I was at school we had a married couple in a year 11 above me, they still went to school).
It is education or training, this is what Germany has insisted on for a long long time I believe (I remember back to when I was a 16 year old exchange student).

ProPerformer · 18/01/2012 22:49

Wow - really couldn't imagine being married at 16 and still at school!

mummytime · 19/01/2012 08:07

The weirdest was bumping into a girl from my year when I was at the end of sixth form, and she had 3 kids (the first at 15).

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