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Bryanston and Canford - what are they really like?

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blushbabybambu · 25/11/2011 17:50

I'd be interested to hear from anyone whose dc attends either of these schools. There's so much rumour about B, and so much 'why pay for C with all the good grammar's nearby' but relatively little fact.

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happygardening · 25/11/2011 22:12

We've got friends with DC's at both and they seem fairly happy.
We looked at Bryanston a few years ago I thought the head was very ambitious for the school wanting to improve its position in the league tables. The friend whose DC is there has confirmed this many of the children are not particularly bright but under a lot of pressure to do well.
With regard to Canford many seem to think its a coed alternative to Winchester because the head in the past was a Winchester house master, the friend with a child there is very happy but will testify that it is not an coed Win Coll.

Mmmdoughnuts · 26/11/2011 09:16

Bournemouth (and surrounding area) has fantastic school provision for girls. You've got Parkstone Grammar, Bournemouth Grammar, and Talbot Heath which is cheap independent, but gets fantastic results, and although selective is easier than the Grammar schools.

The provision for boys is terrible. Poole Grammar accept 20 less places than Parkstone Grammar, and Bournemouth Grammar accept 24 less places than the Girls. And there is no other real academic school available to boys other than Canford.

Canford is good, but at high prices, is it worth it? Yes if you have an academic boy, but missed out on the entrance to the Grammar due to numbers not ability. You want a private all round education for a boy would I recommend Canford yes?

Would I send a girl there no, if I had a girl who didn't get into the grammar I would send her to Talbot Heath.

Bryanston is alternative. It is not structured, nor as rigid as other independents. This works for some but not for all.

happygardening · 26/11/2011 09:46

I'm interested that Mmmdoughnuts thinks Brynaston "is not structured, nor as rigid as other independents" the friend whose son has just started there has not found this in fact far from it. I think at one stage it wasn't but the new head has changed this.
Niether have many full boarders nearly all are weekly.

Mmmdoughnuts · 26/11/2011 10:21

That's interesting to know, as I know a number of people chose the school for the reason it wasn't as rigid, so I wonder how they are finding it now.

paddock · 04/02/2012 16:43

Both Canford and Bryanston are excellent schools. There is more full boarding at Bryanston (no weekly boarding, contrary to one of the earlier posts), and therefore probably a more local element at Canford, although both would suit local children equally well. At Bryanston, because of the slightly more emphatic boarding culture, even day children can only go home after prep in the evenings. At Canford (unless it's changed recently) day children can leave after their school day committments finish.

Bryanston has a reputation as being less rigid. There's no uniform (although well thought-out dress guidelines, and housemasters / housemistresses work hard to enforce them), and it has always had a more arty feel (although the Canford Art dept is excellent too), and even from Yr 9 the children are expected to cope with having 'free' periods, during which they must organise themselves, and work on their weekly assignments. This doesn't happen at Canford (or many other public schools) until the 6th form.

There is no way that the current Head at Canford (who actually has been there for donkeys years anyway), has ever tried to make it into a co-ed Win Coll. Canford has its own character, and while certainly academically strong, would never end up as selective as Win Coll. Bryanston's head has certainly embraced current technology to ensure that there is a strong support system for academic progress, but so indeed did her predecessor (albeit he was not as experienced in IT related issues, given his generation and background). Any hints of an overly liberal ethos at Bryanston comes from the 1970s - but it's typical that these rumours stick for far too long. I'm surprised to read that 'happygardening' claims that children there are under a lot of pressure to do well. Most of the success of this school lies in its fantastic tutorial system (and e-charts), which gives every child a 'trusted adult' with whom they can reflect upon their academic progress. Certainly if you see the children around school they are purposeful, engaged and enthusiastic - certainly not under any worrying degree of pressure. They get the balance.

The only thing to do is to visit both schools. They are both excellent, and must be judged (as is the case with every school) on your own experience of them. Most parents find it pretty easy to decide between them, and it's right that they should, as they are sufficiently different to provide the families of Dorset (and beyond) with a really wonderful choice.

happygardening · 04/02/2012 16:57

My friends DC's at Bryanston and definitely comes home nearly every weekend and they live 150 miles away and they told me that most go home when ever they are allowed too.
They we're also commenting only the other week on how structured it was! Just shows you how we all perceive things differently.
They are very pleased with it there are lots of London children there it would seem with regular coaches into Richmond.

londalion · 11/04/2012 11:23

I'm aghast that someone says they'd rather send their girl to Talbot Heath than Canford! Having friends who've been to both, especially girls who left to go to Canford at 6th form, I would say TH wouldn't even come close. Maybe the academic results would be similar, but that's about 20% of what choosing a school is about isn't it?

Knowing both schools very well, I personally would go for Canford rather than Bryanston. Two girls I was at prep school with had a very hard time fitting in there and it did seem rather overwhelmingly 'cool' when I used to go there as a child. Canford genuinely seems to turn out capable, well-rounded individuals - as unfashionable as that sounds!

awinawin · 17/04/2012 19:35

Bryanston is utterly moneyed. Canford not so much.

Puffykins · 17/04/2012 20:28

I went to Bryanston. So did DH. I LOVED it. We hope DS will go there, and DD, if it's the right school for them.

Bryanston works well, IMO, for children with quite strong characters, because yes, while there is structure, one is responsible oneself for building it and maintaining it. As another poster mentioned, from an early age one has more 'free' periods than one would at other schools - for some, this works brilliantly. It's another hour in the art room/ practicing the violin/ time to learn one's lines for that terms play/ time to spend more time on one's English assignment/ whatever. For those who have a clear passion, and an idea as what they want to be doing, this structure works brilliantly - and there are few other school that are as encouraging of their pupils dreams, or who nurture them in such a way that they become reality. Just looking at my year: the girl who wanted to be an actress is, and she's relatively successful. Those who wanted to be artists are artists, and are making a living from it. The same with music - two of my year are world class musicians, with recording contracts (one of them only took one A Level, in order to free up more time for practice - a lot of schools would be worrying about league tables etc. and not allow this - not Bryanston.) In my twenties I looked around at my peers, and realised that a lot of them didn't have proper jobs - that they were still working in bars,and 'waiting for their film careers to kick in'. But, only a couple of years later, that Bryanston-taught persistence and belief in themselves has paid off. They're not working in bars anymore. They're doing what it was that they wanted to do.

However, there are others who Bryanston doesn't serve so well. I know that I would probably have got much better A Levels elsewhere, somewhere where I wasn't doing a different play every term, in choir, orchestra, writing for the school magazine etc. etc. For me it didn't matter - I'm still doing what I set out to do, and in fact talked my way into a much better university than my grades should have got me into - however, for others, I think that perhaps Bryanston didn't give them as much structure as they needed. They drifted, got by on doing the bare minimum, and some of them are still drifting now. But perhaps that happens at every school? Or perhaps other schools manage to get the necessary results out their pupils, before setting them free to drift (certainly, getting to university was in many ways a shock - there were all these people who had no concept of making themselves write essays just because they had to - without prep, or a parent or a teacher standing over them, they seemingly couldn't apply themselves.)
Awinawin mentions Bryanston being very 'monied', and Canford less so - I think to an extent this is true, Bryanston has always attracted a lot of liberal West London (Notting Hill) parents - but there are a lot of locals too - and everybody mixes properly.

Other things that I would mention in terms of recommending Bryanston: no bullying (but that comes with coeducation), the only girls in my year with eating disorders arrived with them in the sixth form (again, the lack of eating disorders is normal in coeducation), enormous freedom, beautiful grounds - there's more - much more - do feel free to private message me if you want to.
Canford is good too, incidentally. I've got friends who went there. it's just not as good as Bryanston. Obviously . . . .
DISCLAIMER: We're not sure how we're going to pay the school fees for DS or DD yet, so getting them there is a dream. But DS is 20 months, and DD is still in utero, so we have time . . .

dorsetmummy123 · 06/05/2014 12:12

I would not say that Talbot Heath is Cheap at all, far from it, so I guess the person who said it is cheap is extremely wealthy!! A school is only cheap if it is a free! I went to Canford, very boyish, would definitely not recommend it for a girl but would for a boy and I should know! Bryanston, had a lot of friends attend there and most of them are very posh sloaney types, very nice girls but not the brightest, married well but can't think of one with a decent career, if any, not academic really. Talbot Heath is a private school not a public school, had 2 friends there, one is now a chartered accountant, the other one a doctor, academically they are very good but also good at sports. Really depends if you want academic or not very academic and really really posh and extremely expensive.

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