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what level sats would you need to pass a gcse g

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iwanttoscream · 18/11/2011 21:34

dd is yr5 working at p7-p8 .secondary school do not offer maths or literacy exams if dd cannot achieve a g.

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cardibach · 19/11/2011 00:16

Not sure what you mean - not sure of actual level your DD is working at, or why you are bothred inY5 when you have 5 years until GCSEs.

blueemerald · 19/11/2011 01:01

P7-8 is just below National Curriculum level 1 and by the end of year 5 a pupil is expected to be between National Curriculum level 3a and 5c. I would look at any extra support you can get for your daughter.

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iwanttoscream · 19/11/2011 10:01

The school the la have said would be suitable don't offer maths and literacy exams of any kind below a gcse g. I just would like to know what sat level she would need to get to to achieve it. I need to know so when her statement review comes around I can tell them there choice of mainstream school / or to go for a special school. Also if any of you can tell me other qualifications are out there much appreciated.

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PotteringAlong · 19/11/2011 10:11

You can do entry levels which are below a level G but it's unusual to offer them.

entry level here

I've had pupils who've come to me not at NC level 1 who've left with full GCSE's but, equally, those who haven't. A lot found change for your DC in 5 years. What extra support are they getting now?

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iwanttoscream · 19/11/2011 10:55

1-1, 1-2 support in maths and literacy, speech and language, daily reading at school not just at home. She has severe speech and language disorder and learning difficulties. I'm sure the secondary school definitely said they don't offer entry level. It's heart breaking struggling doing the basics, as my eldest is in y10 doing well, even her twin is doing ok, not as clever as my eldest, though he can swim better than his brother. I know a lot can change in 5 years, but it's been hell getting a statement, but it's been hell keep going over her sounds and numbers, trying to get her to retain that information, took a long time.

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kritur · 19/11/2011 11:28

Does the school not offer adult literacy and adult numeracy as alternatives to GCSEs? If she's currently on the P scale then she may be better off in a special school as they tend to be very good at meeting the needs of individual students rather than the 'one size fits all', 'GCSE for everyone route that mainstream high schools favour.

noblegiraffe · 19/11/2011 13:54

I have to say that I've taught one child who got a G at GCSE (maths), who worked hard for it (mainly when they get that low a grade at my school they've missed exams or a lot of school) and I felt really sorry for him plugging away at a course that was clearly unsuitable for him. He had trouble adding up and remembering times tables and yet he was still exposed to algebra in the effort to try to get him the few marks he needed to scrape a pass. Like he was going to need algebra!

Even if your child could potentially get a G at GCSE, that doesn't mean that it's the right course for them, and an entry-level qualification might be better.

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iwanttoscream · 19/11/2011 17:46

This school also is using lexia computer software, would this help a child with severe speech and language disorder and learning difficulties.

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mnistooaddictive · 20/11/2011 05:53

It is hard to predict but balance of probabilities suggest she is unlikely to reach the level for a grade g. There are lots of fab courses for those working below GCSE level that are very practical and include life skill maths. You need to find a scho that will offer these. I think it is unacceptable for them to state they don't do entry level qualifications . If there students need them then they should provide what is in the students best interests. Assuming it isn't a private school who don't have to be as flexible.

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iwanttoscream · 20/11/2011 16:59

Thankyou all for your replies, tomorrow I'll be contracting all the schools in our area to see if any offer entry level exams, or adult numeracy / literacy instead. It was an academy the la said would be suitable, not many la would offer a private school.

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Donki · 20/11/2011 18:43

All the secondary school I have worked in offer entry level exams - I would be very surprised to find a reasonably sized, non-selective school which didn't...

GetDownNesbitt · 22/11/2011 20:39

Tbh, if she is working on p scales I would also be asking schools how they would work with her at KS3. We have some pupils on L2 at the end of KS2 and struggle to differentiate effectively sometimes - one child is still on P scales and it is very hard to help him alongside 25 others working from L2 - L6 in his y8 class. Special school may be more keyed into her needs.

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