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11+ 'home tutoring'. Any recommendations for papers/books?

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tiredemma · 12/03/2011 16:57

DS1 has expressed an interest in sitting the 11+ later this year. Mainly because the local Grammar school has an excellent sports curriculum. I have sat with him and told him that he will be expected to give 100% to his academic work also.

We are fortunate to live in the catchment area of an 'Outstanding' state secondary school and DS1 is as equally as happy to attend this school, but says he would like to at least give the 11+ a shot.

As he is happy either way i am reluctant to fork out for a tutor and would just like to take things easy without any pressure- mainly by doing books/tests at our own leisure at home.

I would be grateful for any recommendations from those of you who have also 'home tutored' for the 11+. (I have been on the 11+ forum but find it a bit 'full on')

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withagoat · 12/03/2011 16:59

you need to ask around
there are diffo types NFER and bond

GypsyMay · 13/03/2011 07:34

You may find the 11+ forum a bit "full on" but they will give you the correct info for the school you are interested in.

Different selective areas/schools have different exams. Some VR only others VR+NVR+Maths+English and anything inbetween.

Also the question types vary. You can work without pressure but there is no point working on the wrong stuff.

Alternatively tell us which school or area and someone might know what you need.

seeker · 13/03/2011 07:38

Where do you live?

eatyourveg · 13/03/2011 07:54

Bond papers from WHSmith seem to be the most popular practice books

weblette · 13/03/2011 10:04

Agree with looking again at the 11+ forum. It may be 'full-on' but can really help.

As to resources, it depends completely on where you live as to which books to use. Bond for instance doesn't cover all the question types we need.

We're in Bucks and just do VR. Ds1 is in Yr 4, we're going to do home tutoring with him and a chum. At the moment we're giving him sudokus and word puzzles every now and then.

We plan to look at the exam question types from the start of Yr5 doing one question type a week in a low key way.

seeker · 13/03/2011 11:32

The important thing to remember that the vast majority of people on the 11+forum are either incredibly pushy parents or are looking to the super selectives where you have to get full marks to even think about a place or both. That's why it's so intense and scary.

In most 11+ areas the pass mark is well below 100%.

seeker · 13/03/2011 11:32

Sorry, the italics went weird.

tiredemma · 13/03/2011 11:33

Sorry, what I meant by 'full on' was more that I couldnt really understand some of the terms that they were using- I thought I could get it explained a bit easier here ( I am reluctant to make myself look like a moron on that site!!!!)

We are in Bham.

Thanks for your suggestions

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GypsyMay · 13/03/2011 12:27

You need advice from the Birmingham people. Don't worry about looking daft. 11+ forum has a Birmingham section and you might find a "sticky" at the top of the section which explains the basics, if not just ask (and ask for clarification of terms you don't understand).

I'm in London so I won't recommend anything as I may lead you astray.

Good luck!

Pterosaur · 14/03/2011 10:56

I believe the Birmingham test is set by the same people/similar to the Warwickshire one which my two girls have taken. It is supposed to be tutor proof, which ought to mean that it is too unpredictable to recommend a particular practice approach, but I suspect that any test can be prepared for up to a point, and in the couple of years since it has been introduced here, the pass mark seems to have steadily risen.

The Warks test is in 3 parts, verbal reasoning, non-verbal reasoning and maths. Its main feature appears to be a breathless pace. DD1 took it in the first year that it changed from a more predictable VR format, and it did seem to throw a lot of carefully-tutored children. We weren't that committed to it, and DD winged it on a couple of Bond books, a devil-may-care attitude and a complete lack of expectations.

DD2 took it last year, and I did more with her as she wanted to join her sister. I used the Bond books as a basis, but tried to find exercises in different formats, including puzzle books. I particularly worked on her speed, as she's a bit more ponderous than her sister (though a lot more thoughtful). She'd had some tutoring for her maths in year 5 as she had a bit of a crisis of confidence in year 4. I didn't flog it too hard though, as I wouldn't have wanted her to get in solely on preparation, even if that were possible. She didn't get in, and I suspect that's actually a good result for her.

Strong maths is important, I think - DD1 went into the test on about level 5C/B and didn't do particularly well in the maths part of the test, though it's one of her strongest subjects now; DD2 went in on about 4A and did quite poorly. Their VR and NVR scores were pretty much as I would have predicted, according to their natural aptitudes, so I think it's probably quite a good test, as they go.

Here is info from the 11+ Forum on the Warks test; it's a bit more detailed than the info on the Birmingham test, but it does appear to be broadly the same.

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