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By end of primary kids ideally working at 4b, what is expected for Year 7?

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pepsi · 10/03/2011 12:06

My niece seems to have gone backwards in secondary school, she was a 4 something in maths for example when she started but isnt making progress. Whats the "target" for year 7 in maths, literacy, etc. Thanks.

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bruffin · 10/03/2011 12:39

The target should be personal to her. DS's school do not give targets for yr7 they only give targets for end of KS3.
I think they should go up 2 sub levels a year ie a 4b at beginning of year 7 should be 5c by the end of it.

innertiger · 10/03/2011 12:54

The government set a standard movement of 2 sub levels a year. However, children will not all adhere to such regimented scales of development! Some will plateau for a while and then make leaps, whilst others progress at a steady pace. I sat on a governors curriculum committee for a junior school and we would question the HT on each individual child on their termly assessments, when we could see they hadn't moved. generally there are good reasons why and most would then speed up with in a term or two.

There are also differences between schools and it is quite common for secondary schools to assess slightly differently. If KS2 assessments include teachers own assessment, they may be, dare I say it, slightly generous so as to flatter the school most? I would wait for the end of the first year to see and if no movement has occured, then raise it with the head of Year.

IntotheNittyGritty · 10/03/2011 21:27

You/her parents could have a chat to the teacher to see where her weaknesses are and what could be done to improve them.

At high school they cover a greater span of maths in more detail and the "average" will be taken from all aspects of the curriculum. KS2 doesnt cover the whole of Level 4 or Level 5 topics, they go into much more detail at KS3 from year 7+, so a child might have been working on Level 4 in year 6, but will be doing different Level 4 work in year 7.

Your neice might need to go back to basics and ensure she is solid before being moved onto the harder maths but the teacher should be able to advise

IndigoBell · 10/03/2011 21:53

Kids always seem to go backwards between primary school and secondary school - and no one can explain why. (Although lots of excuses are given.)

It is very very common to be downgraded significantly between finishing Y6 and starting Y7.

Krepsly · 10/03/2011 22:40

My son's level has dropped in Science.

He started year 7 with a grade of 5b. I found out today it is now 5c. The Science teacher told me almost everyone in his class has done the same thing and its entirely normal. Still, if it drops any further I'll be concerned.

Silverstreet · 10/03/2011 22:47

We had same for my son in maths, English is flat and science up a little. I set more store by the behaviour ratings, if he is getting very good grades here he should be progressing as much as he is able to in each subject. So we have told him he has a great report and praised all the moves up both on the academic scores and the behaviour side.

Also worth looking at the school books - if they are getting good results/comments in these or if there are things she appears to be struggling with.

Kez100 · 12/03/2011 14:08

I found that KS2 results were reassessed at the start of year 7 and shown on the report. My daughter scored 4c, 4c, 3a at year 6.

The school shows KS2 on her report as 4,4,3 but also gave their own starting assessments which were:
4c, 4b and 3b.

So, one same, one lower, one higher!

From their own assessments they then gave her targets of two sublevels. She ended KS3 on 5a in all three subjects.

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