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Learning to love Spanish in Year 8

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Suzfly · 05/03/2011 13:30

Has anyone had experience of their son (or daughter) going off a language and losing interest at this stage of school? Or a son finding the learning of two languages - French and Spanish - almost too much to cope with?
Allied to this, I wonder if anyone can recommend a good Spanish learning book to help them catch up on the basics at home.
Thanks
S

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Renniehorta · 05/03/2011 13:52

I have never been able to understand why MFL departments are so keen to introduce a second language to quickly. French and Spanish are too similar for most students to cope with. You need real passion and commitment to learn 2 such similar languages together.

I firmly believe that the first MFL should be given a number of years to take root before it is considered sensible to start a second language. If you have firm deep rooted foundations in one MFL you can relatively quickly learn a second one.

This is against a background where the number of hours available for MFL on the timetable is being reduced. A second language if often given no more than one hour a week. Just sufficient time for the average student to completely forget what they have learnt the previous week.

If students were arriving with a good knowledge of their first MFL from primary then things might be different. However this is certainly not yet the case.

MFL departments start the second language in year 8 precisely because there is so little place for it on the timetable. However I think that it is counter productive and puts off many more students than it enthuses. Dual linguists are usually few and far between at GCSE. Their numbers have never justified for me putting whole year groups off MFL because a second one is introduced too early.

I am very much in favour of MFL and in particular the teaching of Spanish. It just needs to be done the right way.
I can't reccomend a book. I am sure others will be able to.

Suzfly · 05/03/2011 16:08

Thanks. I agree with you. It is crazy to do two languages at once, when so little time is devoted to them. Or, perhaps the teachers should accept a lower standard and not put the boys under pressure. In fact, my son started both French and Spanish in Year 7, so this is his second year of two languages. Plus they do Latin. He's doing fine in French and Latin, so I am very happy with that.
But he's unhappy in Spanish at the moment, because he can't remember the vocab from one week to the next and the teacher told him off the other week for forgetting to do homework. She knows he's not doing well, but instead of encouraging him, seems to be leaning on him even more.

The other thing about MFL teaching is that it could be a more lively and innovative. They still seem to teach it the way I was taught over 30 years ago! eg learning lists of clothing vocab - scarf, coat, jacket, slippers etc. which is pretty dull.

And get this: my son had a text book last year for Spanish, but this year they aren't using one!! Nor in French. (There is a Latin book, thank goodness). All they get is little slips of A5 paper with an exercise on it. I don't really understand how anyone can revise under those circumstances. So, I plan to buy a book with grammar summary, at least. Just to help him gain confidence.

I will point out the madness of having no textbook at Parent's Evening.... I hope some teachers are reading this.

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CrazyHorse · 05/03/2011 16:15

~Suzfly..I'm having the same problem as you, but DS is in Y7, and doesn't do Latin. He has decided he hates Spanish with a passion, but I think it's because he's used to things coming easily to him, so being given something new he's never seen before is frustrating. I'm seriously thinking we should go on holiday to Spain, so he can see there is some point to it. Hmm

But if anyone can recommend any resources, that would be great!

I'm considering asking the school if he could change from Spanish to German or Italian (but preferably German, for several reasons) in Y8, but he would be starting at the beginning again, which might just put him off languages all together.

AgeofInnocence · 05/03/2011 22:02

What about the BBC Mi Vida Loca?

klm4765 · 05/03/2011 22:10

If he has a Nintendo DS, we have found the 'My Spanish Coach' 'game' to be very good - the idea is you do 10 mins. or so each day. You earn points and move up levels just like in games, so there is lots of positive feedback. Its available from amazon, play.com etc.
There is also a 'My French Coach'. (Not Latin, though!)

Deaddei · 06/03/2011 09:24

Dd does both Spanish and French- she is in yr 9.
Luckily she loves them both-don't think she'd have the same enthusiasm if she had to do German.
She is dropping French for GCSE though.

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