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Sutton High School

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scrabble66 · 19/02/2011 12:35

I have been considering sending dds to Sutton High School but have heard there are managment problems and head has walked out. I know from neice's experience that trouble at the top filters own to children. Can anyone confirm situation and/or comment on the school?

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Dozer · 19/02/2011 13:20

The head's name has just disappeared from the website! Weird.

Am similarly considering for dd, but don't know anyone with dds at the school to ask about it.

Renniehorta · 20/02/2011 07:50

I went there and hated it with a passion. I hope it has improved.

Dozer · 20/02/2011 08:15

How long ago was this renniehorta?

scrabble66 · 20/02/2011 15:04

why did you hate it??

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Renniehorta · 20/02/2011 15:34

I hated it for two reasons. I started there in the Lower 2nd and was remorselessly bullied until I was about 14.

The other thing I hated was that they had 2 or 3 templates for what an SHS girl should be. I did not quite fit any of them. They were so inflexible, so unwilling to see me as an individual.

I genuinely thought that was how things were at school, until I had the great good fortune to transfer to Rosebery in Epsom for sixth form. I was finally treated as an individual. I flourished there and got great A Levels. I then went on to a top uni. It would never have happened for me at SHS.

cmlfj · 21/02/2011 18:50

I am a senior school parent at SHS. It is true that the Head is leaving this half-term. It is not true that he has 'walked out'. Not really his style. The truth is nobody knows- there are lots of rumours but it's not appropriate to spread rumours when we dont know. It was certainly nothing untoward- He has been there for 8 yrs and did a lot of good. His focus has been very strongly on individual care of the girls and supporting them whatever happens through all the normal ups and downs of being a teenager. Latterly, things had not been going so well for him.

We were all taken by surprise by the announcement that he was leaving and we have been given little information as to why apart from 'personal and family reasons'. He will be returning at Easter to say goodbye.

Some people felt that he was 'over his sell by date' but for the most part, the school has carried on running as usual as the SHS staff are mostly long standing with a very strong, experienced and committed management team. He was a very nice man but a little old fashioned and not at all marketing minded, he also was not in tune with the girls...they didn't hate him but some felt that they had he wasn't in touch with them, particularly at the top end of the school. So apart from the surprise of him leaving so suddenly, it's business as usual. One of the assistant heads (specialising in pastoral care) who is a long standing member of staff, extremely professional, respected, approachable and popular with the girls and staff alike has been put in charge. This is a popular decision. She is very pleasant, has teens of her own so is very well versed in dealing with them but importantly is highly respected by the girls and whilst maintaining a good relationship with them is also able to say no when necessary. She has been there a long time and knows what needs to be done.

I would say the mum who says on an earlier post that SHS required you to be a certain type of girl is well out of date. This is indeed some of the improvement that can be attributed to the outgoing head. I would not say either that there are management problems as throughout these last couple of years (where it was clear to some that there were issues), the excellent long standing management team held it together very well for the girls. The teachers who are Heads of Year are very well selected and all in all the school runs well.

If I have a criticism of SHS it is that, as the girls get older, it becomes a little dull. Up to y9, it is great as it is the most turbulent time for teen girls and having a firm steady hand and a slightly old fashioned but supportive approach gets them through that period quite nicely. It is really from the middle of y10 that the school needs to allow the girls to grow up and treat them more like adults. It needs the windows open and some fresh air to blow through.

In terms of responsiveness to issues,the school treats parents very well. I have dealt with 3 different schools and I have been impressed with my ability to chase things up and get listened to by staff at SHS. They do show concern, they do apologise if necessary and they generally put things straight or give support where requested. Most parents report that staff have got their daughter absolutely sussed when they come out of parent/teacher meetings. Of course there are the odd exceptions but no school is perfect.

You dont say if you are considering the Junior School. That is a 'no brainer', it's brilliant. The senior school is solid and experienced and I do think that in the hands of the acting head it will take a turn for the better and that some extremely positive changes will take place in making the school a little more upbeat. It is not a perfect school but it is a very solid one. I know that the Governors are fully engaged in listening to parents who are all saying pretty similar things and from what I gather, they are in agreement with feedback...so it all bodes quite well. Like all schools at some time, it is going through a transition but I have to say, from the point of you of the girls and running of the school, this sudden loss of our head has gone pretty smoothly.

SHS has good relationships with other local schools in particular Sutton Grammar Boys with whom they do plays every two years and have joint concerts and choirs and the odd other events. It also has a good economic and racial mix which is also a great benefit.

My advice is to go and meet Mrs Crouch the acting head (who we all very much hope will apply for the permanent post). I think that should clear up any questions you may have. In any case you will get some very clear answers to any of your questions: this lady is excellent.

Of coure this is just my opinion...there are certainly others but I would encourage you to go there, meet Mrs Crouch and meet the girls.

cmlfj · 22/02/2011 11:20

PS. My 16 yr old in yr11 at SHS just read my summary above and felt it was a fair analysis. You would think she would be one of the worst affected being in GCSE year but she felt I had summed up fairly and accurately.

scrabble66 · 22/02/2011 19:31

Thank you for such a comprehensive and fair response - I had visited at the school last year but think perhaps I will take another look under the new acting head to see what plans are afoot. I'm afraid that regardless of the ethics, the rumour mill is pretty unstoppable when a head leaves as suddenly as this - particularly when we are paying fees.

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cmlfj · 23/02/2011 00:26

Yes of course, the rumour mill goes mad and, as you can imagine we have heard EVERYTHING (mostly from those in no position to judge). But long years of experience have taught me not to listen to what is only speculation (scandal is always a crowd pleaser, sadly) and concentrate on what is happening to the children. And the fact is simply that the management team is doing a great job and it's business as usual for now...and that is good. Also lots of listening to parents for future and that is even better. This is far too well established a school with long established and experienced staff to fall apart, especially not under the care of Mrs Crouch!
Best of luck!

Dozer · 24/02/2011 08:24

Thanks v much for the info cmlfj.

KatieD17 · 18/07/2011 18:37

I am a current student at SHS and can say without any doubt our ex head was an amazing teacher and treated every student as an individual and helped them succeed in any aspect we put our minds to.Our senior leadership team has managed the transition extremely well, with little impact on the students day to day education. The support we receive from the staff is outstanding, and i can say this due to moving schools after my GCSE's (attaining all A's and A* at shs) for my alevels, then after half a term returning to shs due to missing the strong relationship formed by student and staff alike. being welcomed back with open arms by all members of the school and in particular our ex head ! beware not to listen to rumors and instead talk to any member of the school, who will conform he didn't 'walk out' at all !. I would recommend my school to anyone as it has developed me academically and as a personal, which has thus given me the drive and confidence to pursue a career in medicine.

notavoicelikeShirleyBasseys · 06/12/2011 21:04

Hmmmmm. Bullying against new girls sounds familiar, unfortunately. As does trouble at the top filtering down. No smoke without fire they say. I know someone whose dd is no longer there. Strong in sports though, I hear.

notavoicelikeShirleyBasseys · 08/12/2011 23:07

Hmmmmm. Bullying against new girls sounds familiar, unfortunately. As does trouble at the top filtering down. No smoke without fire they say. I know someone whose dd is no longer there. Strong in sports though, I hear.

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