STABBING AND ONLY EXCLUDED! WHY????

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My son attends the local senior school where a pupil was stabbed in the back by another pupil last week during a lesson!! Glad to say the pupil stabbed recovered well given the circumstances. THE CHILD WHO DID THE STABBING HAS ONLY BEEN EXCLUDED FOR ONE WEEK!! I find this situation ridiculous because if it was two adults in this situation, one of them would have now been on remand!! The children in the school no longer want this child in the same building and quite frankly I totally agree with them!! Anyone know what the next move will be by the school and how do we get this child permanently removed from the school environment!! What about the safety of all of the other children?? Would you want to enter your work place knowing that someone had done that to someone else and you still had to work with them? What do we as parents have to do to protect our children and I thought that the school had a duty to do that when my child is there? Or am I missing something???!! Anyone any advice!!

Seems rather odd - was it a pencil as a weapon?

What does the school say about it?

The weapon was a piece of school equipment that was sharp enough to do damage to the child. The school have as yet said nothing about it on the website or to the parents, no letters, no nothing!!

No it was not a pencil it was a piece of metal technology equipment.

What was the weapon?

I'm surprised the police aren't involved here.

OP, please don't drip feed -tell us what was used, what happened and what were the child's injuries?

You could be describing anything from a drawing pin onwards: are you able to be more specific?

Not too specific unfortunately! Yes I think the police are involved because the person was removed by them and the weapon was a double pointed instrument used in technology, he was stabbed in the back!Sorry can't be more helpful. i think that charges have been pressed though. The young person's parents were seriously angry! (Wouldn't you be???)

Yes I'd be angry. But the school have to deal with it..... Not you!

He has been dealt with then by Police then if he has been charged. Schools would not double the punishment. It is either a police matter (and he is suitable dealt with in the criminal justice system) or the school can dealt with it in its entirety.

It seems too serious for the school to deal with it seems.

Sorry too many "seems" there!

Double pointed? Pair of compasses was the favoured "weapon" in my day.

Anything which breaches all layers of the skin is a serious enough injury potentially to fall into the criminal system, and nowadays could well do so. Have you been told any more about the circumstances?

I'm sorry but I would be as horrified as the OP.

I would not want my DC in a class with a pupil who had stabbed someone. And I wouldn't care how the police were dealing with it.

Would you work in an office where another member of staff did that? No you would not.

Our children deserve to feel safe in the classroom surely.

That's what we are waiting for 'formal information' - it's not forthcoming! Re information - neighbours son attends same school was present in the class concerned stood right next to both children when it happened and he was interviewed by the police. His parents were with him when he was interviewed and they were told what had occured first hand.

Thankyou Litchick! I sure as would not want to work in the same room as someone who was capable of doing that! I totally agree that children need to be safe in the classroom. What's wrong with people?? Thanks for the comments people!

But you may well be working with people who have previous convictions for violence and there may well be teens at the school with precons too. You just do not know.

Let the police deal with it.

FWIW, it is incredibly difficult to get children permently excluded from schools. It's not taken lightly either and I don't believe the school have taken it lightly. t takes weeks and weeks of paper gathering, meetings, Govenor meetings etc etc, before a final exclusion meeting makes a decision.

They are on the inside, not you and whilst you might feel you have the right to know the facts, you don't. It'll just end up being a witch hunt. You have no idea about this students background, his reasons for 'stabbing' the other student or indeed his educational needs.

No, it isn't particularly fair on the other students and you're right, adults would not put up with this behaviour in the work place, but every child has a right to an education and that, I'm afraid, is that.

You also might also be interested to know, that most schools will have to have another student join for a 'fresh start' in the place of the departing child. Lord only knows what that one needs a 'fresh start' for. He/she will have been turfed out of their school for something...

This happened to a boy in my old school - equipment was a chisel, punctured victim's lung. Victim was eventually OK. Boy was prosecuted and sent to young offenders unit, is now in pupil referral unit. Other boy (victim) understandably changed school.

I imagine the week exclusion will be the amount of time the police require to figure out how to proceed.

Unrelated parents getting angry with procedures isn't going to help anyone, and will make it more difficult for the children to recover from the shock. The police will deal with it, and so will the school in due course. Leave well alone, OP.