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NC Levels - aren't they a bit mad?

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Hullygully · 10/11/2010 14:02

I have been reading up on them as we are just embarking down this joyous path (DS 13), aren't they just a little barking?

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Hullygully · 10/11/2010 14:20

Oh good, nobody disagrees, I knew I was right, but then, I always am. How satisfying and marvellous.

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Bonsoir · 10/11/2010 14:24

What are they? Genuinely interested...

Hullygully · 10/11/2010 14:32

Far far too long to explain, if you are really interested, they nestle on the net in amongst the govt info stuff.

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wonderstuff · 10/11/2010 14:35

Completly agree.

Bonsoir they are descriptions of progess made in each subject taught - National Curriculum Levels

penguin73 · 10/11/2010 16:52

Yes, and totally unrealistic in how they are applied when setting targets. The words dart and board spring to mind....

tummysgottogo · 10/11/2010 21:40

I personally think that if they are done correctly they can be useful...do I need to duck?! Smile

But they can be a bit last minute and guesswork..

seeker · 10/11/2010 22:40

But the Year 9 SATS have been abolished. What do you mean by NC levels?

PixieOnaLeaf · 10/11/2010 23:02

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waterlooroadisadocumentary · 10/11/2010 23:04

I think national curriculum levels work well when used well. They have improved my teaching. Any took is only going to be as good as the person using them.

seeker · 11/11/2010 05:24

I've actually found NC levels quite useful as my children go through school (currently years 5 and 10)

They are abit of a blunt instrument, certainly, but they certainly give you a rough idea of where your child is in relation to where they should be.

seeker · 11/11/2010 05:25

Not sure why the OP his only coming up against them now - surely they start in Reception and go on to the end of KS3?

circular · 11/11/2010 08:06

Whilst they make some kind of sense and show progress reasonably well to the end of KS2, they do become more confusing at secondary school.
To some extent, once they get into yr7, previos levels do not get taken. Into consideration, and kids can easily appear to have gone backwards.
And they appear to only go as high as the level that subject teacher is Currently teaching to. And some subjects are new at this stage, so it seems to be a bit of guesswork at which level they start at.

Pehaps that's why the OP is questioning them at this stage.

PixieOnaLeaf · 11/11/2010 09:04

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wonderstuff · 11/11/2010 09:51

I think it depends on the subject, I found them very difficult in RE, but I'm not an RE specialist. I also think they get over inflated in ks2 making it really difficult to set targets in KS3.

Hullygully · 11/11/2010 11:03

Seeker - coming up against them now because school was an indep before (now ds at grammar), and the only mention of them was a passing one post yr 6 SATs.

I started reading about them because I didn't know how they worked, the thing I thought so mad was particularly in English were it seems that the differentation is virtually made up just to try and create enough levels.

(I have no vested interest btw re my ds's achievements!)

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Hullygully · 11/11/2010 11:03

where, even

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