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Son is having a crap time at secondary

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Kushanku · 30/09/2010 08:42

My son started secondary at the beginning of October. He only knew 3 other kids from his primary and only one of them he actually got on with. Anyway, almost a month in and he has no friends. Even worse, because of his awkward social skills, he's become known as a wierdo and is often called a creep. The other kids avoid him, sometimes laugh at him but never want anything to do with him. He spends every lunch time and break just wandering around on his own. I mentioned it to his form tutor last week and she said its still early and he will eventually settle in and find like-minded friends but I don't think he will. She suggested joining clubs etc, he has - he's joined a writing club, a film club, the gym, took up drums in a small percussion group but still nobody wants anything to do with him.
Last night he came home caked in mud, turns out his "friend" from primary has now turned against him (now that he's made other friends) and pushed him over into the mud causing a huge group of kids to crease over laughing at him.
I feel so sorry for him, I looked on his phone last night and he's tried to contact his old primary school friends about meeting up but they're not replying anymore, they've all made new friends at their secondary schools. He must feel so lonely.

He's never asked to stop off school though and still insists he loves the school and is there to learn (he's very academic) not to make friends but surely its not healthy when the only friends you have are people online that you've never actually met??? He tells me he doesn't want to make friends with anyone at the school because he doesn't like anyone.His social skills are poor, he's very stubborn and won't go out of his way to make friends.

What do I do??? 5 years is a long time to go with no friends.

OP posts:
realitychick · 02/10/2010 14:06

I love The Outcasts. Good on them. Bet they end up with stronger friendships, having more fun and more interesting lives than the Cool Kids.

oenophilia · 02/10/2010 14:30

This sounds familiar here too (DS1). Particularly the stuff about confidence with adults and total confusion when faced with 'normal' teen behaviour. We dealt with the proto-bullying via the form tutor and the SENCO - but the latter were more useful. His initial reaction to the bag-nicking, pushing-type behaviour was to say "Please stop that, I really don't like it", which confused the tormentors and they got bored with picking on him very quickly. In class they've given him a discrete red card & when it gets too chaotic (which it shouldn't but it does) he can show his card and leave the room for the learning support unit or the library. He's said that his old friends from primary aren't really very interested in him any more, which was hard for any Mum to hear, but makes him a bit sad but weirdly doesn't seem that important to him. DH only had one really good friend at school (who's now DS2's godfather) and thinking back, I spent all my time in the music department so I didn't have to bother with all that socialising stuff. Wish we'd both had The Outcasts, though.

Clary · 02/10/2010 14:38

Kushanku yr post made me cry for yr poor DS.

Does he do anything outside school which would help with mates? Scouts? karate? Junior Wardens? Band?

Is he sporty? IME sporty kids are often popular - football, rugby?

Could he come up with some games to play/things to talk about that are popular eg latest computer game/Lego range etc?

PercyPigPie · 02/10/2010 15:14

Really sorry OP to ask MrsMrsFlittersnoop these questions on your thread Blush.

MrsFlittersnoop hoping to be local and looked around Beechen Cliff recently. Was the 'squared up to the wrong people a couple of times and got quite badly hurt' also Beechen Cliff Shock - [worrying about my poor PFB!].

'The Outcasts' sound a great bunch of people. My son is bright and a little bit quirky - so would probably be proud to be a member!

Anenome · 02/10/2010 18:57

Hi there ...so sorry to hear your DD is going through this...has he been considered for gifted and talented?

I went through a similar thing in high school...thought everyone was a fool and spent long terms wandering and hiding at lunch breaks.

By the 3rd year I DID find a friend though...she had been partof a group who picked on her all the time and eventually she got the nerve to dump them and we are still friends today. Your son could find some friends eventually...though this is hard for you both to live with...it's stll very early days.

I know others have said he same thing but a drama group really might help...it helped me.

I hope things get better.

MrsFlittersnoop · 02/10/2010 20:32

Mudandmayhem, yes it was BC, but I can assure you it was dealt with very swiftly and at the highest level. No repurcussions. ALL the other kids knew to give the perpetrator a wide berth. DS was new, and had no idea this kid was a bit of a nutter Hmm.

BS is all boys, with a v. sporty ethos (which is hell for DS, but he's been let off PE indefinately) so you can't expect anything other than a rather macho environment, but there are enough geeky kids there to make a difference.

Compared to DS's urban multicultural London school, BC is like a massage parlour. The vast majority of the kids at BC are OK. Academic kids can thrive.

The only local alternative would be Ralph Allen, which is co-ed and v. well regarded. Don't be under any illusion that girls are less unpleasant than boys though...(girl's grammar school survivor here...).

Xenia · 03/10/2010 09:32

Quirky /nerdy boys stick together unless they are very very total loners but some schools don't have any. Are there any in his class? In some schools there will be some in every class but it doesn't sound like he's found any like minded boys yet and may be wants friends. Not everyone wants or needs friends though so don't assume he does. If no one is academic in a school it's hard if you aer which in some cases is why parents move children to a school where there are at least some children interested in academic work.

Alfreda · 03/10/2010 09:43

Nothing useful to add, but sympathies: it's so hard to watch your child being unhappy. I hope there's resolution soon.

PercyPigPie · 03/10/2010 09:57

MrsFlittersnoop - my DS isn't remotely macho or sporty. Hope he would be OK - sounds like maybe it's not the right school after all Sad. Damn - really liked it and really didn't fall for Ralph Allen at all (seemed very down at heel and very uninspiring to me).

OP is there anything he could do out of school that would expose him to some school boys in smaller quantities in a controlled environment? Scouts might be quite good as they are put in snall groups, monitored and get to let their hair down doing stuff that sometimes will appeal to an academic child (the more theoretical badges etc). If you could get other children to see his intelligence and geekyness as an asset, you are half way there.

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