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Maths top set - teacher cannot control class

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circular · 10/09/2010 08:10

DD1 back to school this week - yr9.
Top set maths since first streamed in yr7, never struggled, could answer 75% of GCSE questions age 10.
Towards the end of last year she kept commenting that the class was very disruptive, and it sounded like those that were disrupting were the brightest boys in the class (boredom?). She said she was often going Back to see the teacher at breaktimr to make sure she had not missed amything important. Let it go in the hope that either the teacher would change, and/or said lads would mature a bit during the holidays (lLol - you can tell I don't have DSs)
Now back, same set, same teacher, same lads disrupting. DD doesn't want us to complain to school - I think she's worried the boys will start picking on her. She has asked if I will teach her more maths instead.
(Always happy to help if needed, but Im not a teacher)
DH wants to make an appointment to see head of maths. Not quite sure what he can do as don't want DD moved to lower set as it will affect option pathways.
I have spoken to head of maths previously as similar issues with different teacher in ur7. He was already aware of the problem as he regularly had to go in and 'settle' the class. That teacher left shorttly after. Gather current treacher has also needed class 'settling' by passing staff.

DD is also worried that they are not doing hard enough work. Currently being given algebra she did in yr5.
I intend to give her the KS3 says level 6 to 8 paper to see how she does and make sure she has covered most of the work.

Not sure whe

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mnistooaddictive · 10/09/2010 08:19

I would approach the head of Maths. The class will not know anything has been aid, let alone by her! They will be aware of it but may have some advice!

This is an all too common problem. Maths teachers are in such short supply that every school I know of has at least one who is not up to it, but the only other option is no-one! (And I am talking about excellent schools not sink schools BTW)

bruffin · 10/09/2010 09:11

I complained last year about DD's maths teacher not being able to control class and school, were more than happy to hear about it. They are good at supporting nQT and will send in more experienced teachers (and even the HT occassionally to keep an eye. They also have another teacher teach one lesson a week, so that not every lesson is disrupted.
DS is yr10 (top set maths)and this week the teacher has specifically asked them about their weaknesses ie DS can't do long division. The class are going to spend time going over these weaknesses, so it may be your dds class are covering old ground because it has been identified as a weakness in general for the class.

BoneyBackJefferson · 12/09/2010 15:19

Towards the end of last year she kept commenting that the class was very disruptive, and it sounded like those that were disrupting were the brightest boys in the class (boredom?).

Its more often a case
"I know everything" especially in top G&T pupils and Teachers not following sanctions.

MmeBlueberry · 12/09/2010 18:01

It is very worrying that there is an out of control class, especially of younger pupils, in a top set, and in the first week of term.

If it is isolated to this one teacher, then he needs to have additional support and effective strategies to keep the class on track and working hard.

I suspect the issue is more endemic to the school and so the SMT should be working to actively install discipline pathways.

There will be specific reasons why discipline has failed, and these need to be identified and rectified.

durga · 12/09/2010 18:05

I agree it is worrying that this is happening during the first week. Admittedly my school has few discipline problems, but even our odd naughty kid behaves in the first week.

You need to let the school know so they can do something.

circular · 17/09/2010 13:25

BoneyBackJefferson

Spot on. They spend most of the lessons on their mobiles. I get the impression the teacher has 'given up'. He spends most of the lesson on his laptop.

Currently waiting for a call back from Head of maths, whom I am certain is aware of the problem.

MmeBlueberry

Does not appear to be discipline problems in other subjects. Previous maths teacher in yr7 could also not control same set. She has since left.

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