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Wood burning stoves banned for new installs from 1st April in Scotland

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Rainbowshit · 09/04/2024 09:19

x.com/macmillanarc/status/1777428276715139483?s=46&t=AjtjSItRj-kgZwRzL-pdyQ

Was anyone aware of this?!

It totally passed me by.

Bad news for folks in rural areas particularly.

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Scottishskifun · 12/04/2024 10:27

Realised the consultation closed last month.

RhannionKPSS · 12/04/2024 10:48

Northernsouloldies · 10/04/2024 06:27

There was removal of coal fires in braemar/ballater area from council housing.
That's going to eradicate world pollution problems.

I thought the residents had managed to stop the council removing their fires? On the grounds that when they get snowed in and electricity lines are damaged up there, as often happens , they would have no heating. It’s utter nonsense to stop people heating their homes like this in rural areas.

Northernsouloldies · 12/04/2024 11:21

I thought the council went through with it but I'd be more than happy to be wrong.

SaffronSpice · 12/04/2024 11:31

Northernsouloldies · 12/04/2024 11:21

I thought the council went through with it but I'd be more than happy to be wrong.

I thought they managed to stop it but it looks like it went through in the end. Typical response from Scot Gov - put regulations in place then try to blame the council when they try to comply with the regulations.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-60074152

Louise Kelly

Removal of open fires 'not required to meet energy efficiency targets'

The Scottish government comment comes amid council climate target plans to remove fireplaces in Braemar.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-60074152

PabloBandito · 12/04/2024 18:11

It went through unfortunately and the local councillor who'd been campaigning against it, resigned from the SNP over it all. The whole thing was a perfect example of how the SNP and the Greens have no understanding of life outside of their central belt bubble.

I believe the cut of date was warrants submitted for new house from April 1st 2024 onwards = no log burners, so I'd imagine any retrofitting would also be a no, but I'm not 100% on that.

The general consensus seems to be if you don't currently have a log burner, but want one and and your house is already built, then get it installed ASAP.

Northernsouloldies · 12/04/2024 18:18

Thanks all for update n the naysayers don't go without heat n hot water.... shower of cunts.

Mara246 · 13/04/2024 10:40

They should be banned in built up areas in the central belt. Nearly all our neighbours have them which seriously affects the air quality in our street and DC come in from school stinking of wood smoke on a cold day. The smell gets into our house too.

SaffronSpice · 13/04/2024 11:19

In older houses, wood burners will have replaced open fires, with wood burners being considerably more efficient. Nor is it straightforward to simply ‘seal up’ an older house for alternatives - these houses were built to ‘breathe’ and sealing them up can lead to problems with condensation and damp.

Mara246 · 13/04/2024 11:27

No place for them in housing estates.

Scottishskifun · 14/04/2024 19:03

SaffronSpice · 13/04/2024 11:19

In older houses, wood burners will have replaced open fires, with wood burners being considerably more efficient. Nor is it straightforward to simply ‘seal up’ an older house for alternatives - these houses were built to ‘breathe’ and sealing them up can lead to problems with condensation and damp.

Yep!
I think the Scottish government fail to understand a lot of what goes on in rural communities outside the central belt and even what that means for basic things like staying warm when there's no power!

I can understand it in cities but there are ways this could have been done without the broad brush to all communities!

Although saying this it might be a bit like their integrated fire alarm law which I have also ignored completely and stuck with my original fire alarms!

SaffronSpice · 14/04/2024 20:22

I can understand it in cities but there are ways this could have been done without the broad brush to all communities!

The Clean Air Act 1993 allows local authorities to:

Declaration of smoke control area by local authority.E+W+S(1)A local authority may by order declare the whole or any part of the district of the authority to be a smoke control area; and any order made under this section is referred to in this Act as a “smoke control order”.

(2)A smoke control order—

(a)may make different provision for different parts of the smoke control area;

(b)may limit the operation of section 20 (prohibition of emissions of smoke [F1in Wales]) [F2or Schedule 1A (penalty for emission of smoke in England)] to specified classes of building in the area; and

(c)may exempt specified buildings or classes of building or specified fireplaces or classes of fireplace in the area from the operation of that section [F3or Schedule], upon such conditions as may be specified in the order;

Rainbowshit · 20/04/2024 05:05

Good article from Andy Wightman

www.holyrood.com/comment/view,why-the-ban-on-woodburning-stoves-ignores-the-needs-of-rural-scotland

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qwertyqwertyqwertyqwerty · 20/04/2024 05:40

Desecratedcoconut · 10/04/2024 09:40

Apparently the acceptable threshold for asking people to forego wood burning stoves in built up areas is saving the world from climate change - it's not enough that you are fucking up the air quality for your neighbours.

Oh yes this.

People who give their neighbours' kids asthma because they like the way a woodburner looks/smells really piss me off.

They are, luckily, starting to go out of fashion round here now.

SaffronSpice · 20/04/2024 09:29

Desecratedcoconut · 10/04/2024 09:40

Apparently the acceptable threshold for asking people to forego wood burning stoves in built up areas is saving the world from climate change - it's not enough that you are fucking up the air quality for your neighbours.

Banning wood burning stoves does nothing for climate change.

Desecratedcoconut · 20/04/2024 09:30

SaffronSpice · 20/04/2024 09:29

Banning wood burning stoves does nothing for climate change.

Agreed, do you need to read my post again?

LMMuffet · 20/04/2024 09:47

Northernsouloldies · 10/04/2024 09:55

In the coldest parts of Aberdeenshire where power cuts are a fact of life in winter.
Tell that to my 80 yr old aunt that whilst she's freezing, she's saving the world.
Meanwhile in china coal fires powered stations galore.

I’m sorry for your aunt but the comparison to China’s coal stations always comes up on these threads and it’s really annoying. Much of their coal powered fire stations make energy for manufacturing- for the Western market. Nearly 15% of all imports in the UK are from China. It’s Western demand that drives the use of much of the coal there.

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TheBanffie · 20/09/2024 07:08

Excellent news! The Scottish Greens really are unpleasantly stupid aren't they.

shockeditellyou · 20/09/2024 07:29

Also I thought China was one of the fastest decarbonising economies?

Aaron95 · 20/09/2024 10:10

Scottishskifun · 21/04/2024 14:45

So wood burners are lowest CO2 levels if using local wood by the Scottish govt own report......

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/wood-burning-stoves-greener-heat-32628775

Ahhhh the irony!
For us ours came from our own garden which was dried for 2 years before use for several years too!

But the reason for phasing them out wasn't to do with CO2 emissions, it was to do with soot particles which cause lung cancer.

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